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[Fullsac Performance]

We just finished installing a pair of our 2.25 Spiral Louvered baffles in a brand new set of 2017 CVO 114 mufflers. The 2017s baffles are not interchangeable with the 2016 and earlier CVOs. They are a little shorter but still identical left and right despite the larger 2.5" right side inlet. Removing the stock baffle is still the same routine of grinding down a couple of small spot welds and tapping them out.

We will have the new 2017 CVO baffles on the shelf in one week!

Thanks Alan (SDCVO) for sending us your mufflers!

Steve@fullsac.com

[Fullsac Performance]

Another Pic!

[Cat Eye]

 
Good Job and thanks

[SDCVO]

Thanks Steve, I am fired up about trying them out!! Appreciate the quick turn around also

[North Star]

C'mon Steve, you know the 2 questions everyone is going to ask-

1) Pictures. Check. You posted them.

2) Dyno sheets with the baffles installed.

[JCZ]

Take your time Steve....Alan is having the whole bike rebuilt before he takes possession of it.....motor work, exhaust, stereo/speakers, etc. 

I'm just about as excited to see the finished bike as he is to get it. 

[CVOStreetglide]

Take your time Steve....Alan is having the whole bike rebuilt before he takes possession of it.....motor work, exhaust, stereo/speakers, etc. 

I'm just about as excited to see the finished bike as he is to get it. 

Be very careful JC that "New Bike" bug may get you too.   

[Fullsac Performance]

Take your time Steve....Alan is having the whole bike rebuilt before he takes possession of it.....motor work, exhaust, stereo/speakers, etc. 

I'm just about as excited to see the finished bike as he is to get it. 

Take my time? Those mufflers went out yesterday.   

SG

[muddypaws]

Will just the mufflers work or do I still need to change the head pipe and tune.

[SDCVO]

Take your time Steve....Alan is having the whole bike rebuilt before he takes possession of it.....motor work, exhaust, stereo/speakers, etc. 

I'm just about as excited to see the finished bike as he is to get it. 

True except the exhaust part since Steve didn't have the header ready to go yet. Im gonna talk you into taking a ride with me to Lake Havasu in a couple of months so Steve can do the exhaust and tune. We might even be able to talk "El Diablo" into getting the new bike he hopefully has by then into coming with us and doing same

[Fullsac Performance]

Will just the mufflers work or do I still need to change the head pipe and tune.

Mufflers only on our 107 showed zero power increase on the dyno. It was only slightly louder too.
The cat is a major cork and has to go to get any sound and power out of the new 8 valve. 
And yes, tuning and fuel will be required to feed any power increase.

SG

[JIMINVA]

Heh Steve - I bet this is old news to you and many others on here -- local dealer told me:
- don't do a headers change on a Milwaukee 8
- EPA is causing "dealerships" problems for  the modifications.
I'm trying to learn more - in the meantime - are you hearing anything. A pal at work tried to get an FLHTK with the new VH Power Duals and dealer would not install. Thnx, Jim

Mufflers only on our 107 showed zero power increase on the dyno. It was only slightly louder too.
The cat is a major cork and has to go to get any sound and power out of the new 8 valve. 
And yes, tuning and fuel will be required to feed any power increase.

SG

[grc]

Heh Steve - I bet this is old news to you and many others on here -- local dealer told me:
- don't do a headers change on a Milwaukee 8
- EPA is causing "dealerships" problems for  the modifications.
I'm trying to learn more - in the meantime - are you hearing anything. A pal at work tried to get an FLHTK with the new VH Power Duals and dealer would not install. Thnx, Jim

There is a lot of information on this site and elsewhere on this subject.  The US Environmental Protection Agency busted Harley-Davidson for tampering with emission systems and selling emission system defeat devices, namely the SERT and SEPST "Race" tuners.  The short version is that Harley had to pay a fine, agreed to stop selling the illegal devices, and warned all it's dealers that they would no longer tolerate illegal modifications.  In other words, the same kind of thing the automotive industry has been living with since the 1970's.  If you modify the emission system, including the catalytic converter, or make other changes that cause the bike to no longer be in compliance with the EPA standards, you risk losing any powertrain warranty under the agreement Harley signed.  Dealers who continue to perform illegal modifications are subject to enforcement actions by the EPA, including fines large enough to put many of them out of business if fully enforced.  Thus the statements from many dealers these days that they will not perform such mods.  I'd suggest you consider making any such illegal modifications carefully before pulling the trigger, or at least be aware you may find yourself paying for any and all powertrain repairs.  Unless you live in a state that either checks motorcycle emissions, or plans to start such a program, you can pretty much do whatever you want to your bike.  What changes is the willingness of the dealers and Harley itself to look the other way if you bring your modified and thus illegal bike in for warranty repairs.  If warranty isn't a big deal to you, no problem.

Jerry

[Fullsac Performance]

Heh Steve - I bet this is old news to you and many others on here -- local dealer told me:
- don't do a headers change on a Milwaukee 8
- EPA is causing "dealerships" problems for  the modifications.
I'm trying to learn more - in the meantime - are you hearing anything. A pal at work tried to get an FLHTK with the new VH Power Duals and dealer would not install. Thnx, Jim

Old laws and old news. Guys who wish to modify their exhaust and ECM calibrations should be prepared to return the bike to stock before attempting to make a warranty claim. If your using TTS Mastertune it takes about 10 minutes to remove the left saddle bag, access the data port and flash it the ECM back to stock. Switching the headpipe back takes 1-2 hours depending on your skills. If you want warranty coverage, its always been recomended to bring in a stock bike unless you have a special relationship with your dealer. What's new is The EPAs efforts to end those relationships.

SG

[FLSTFI Dave]

Old laws and old news. Guys who wish to modify their exhaust and ECM calibrations should be prepared to return the bike to stock before attempting to make a warranty claim. If your using TTS Mastertune it takes about 10 minutes to remove the left saddle bag, access the data port and flash it the ECM back to stock. Switching the headpipe back takes 1-2 hours depending on your skills. If you want warranty coverage, its always been recomended to bring in a stock bike unless you have a special relationship with your dealer. What's new is The EPAs efforts to end those relationships.

SG

Is that the new head pipe you are working on for the 2017?  Or is that just a picture of the factory one?

In spite of the new enforcement of the old law there are many who want a good head pipe for their 2017.  How is progress coming on it?