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[Fireguy]

So I'm looking for a four point docking hardware kit on eBay  and I notice song that cost around $30 others that cost $160.  Can someone fill me in on why there is such a big difference.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/152430758754?_mwBanner=1

https://mstore.harley-davidson.com/store/4-point-docking-hardware-kit-pa-01-52300131--1

[fastfreddy]

cant speak on the mount set you have taged... but i did buy an after market TP mount, it spread at the forward hook end and TP would wiggle, ended up buying an HD mount and have no problem with it spreading, buyer beware

[Fireguy]

Another example.

[Fireguy]

For just the plate.

[Twolanerider]

Screw that.  For $30 I'd try it.  If it does prove to be too thin or so light as to be unusable salvage the bushings for spares and throw the rest away.  Too inexpensive not to try when the OE option is six or seven times as much.

[zigzag930]

I tried the "eBay" clone products on Edge Cut mirrors and a set of highway pegs.  Here's the scoop.

Yes, they look almost identical to the HD parts, but......

The mirrors started to flop around and would not stay in place.  I pried the glass off and did a repair job inside and double sticky taped them back together so worked.  They looked fine after the repair, but then the ball sockets started to rust badly.  No great loss for what I paid, but the quality control is poor.  I can sand the ball joints and probably clear coat them, but not too sure about how that will turn out.  Was it worth the aggravation?  Not in my opinion.

On the highway pegs - they literally weight about 1/2 of what the HD parts weighed.  Not that weight is necessarily an indicator of quality, but sort of made me feel they might crack if I put too much pressure on them.  I'm not too fond of the idea my foot might fall off a broken peg as I'm on the highway doing 75 mph.    Also, the chrome started to bubble (very slightly) and this is a bike that is always garaged.  The only water this bike sees is when it gets washed.

So in the end.  I paid very little for these parts, but don't consider them a good long term value.    I just traded my FLTRU for a FLTRUSE and even if it wasn't a CVO - I'd bite the bullet and buy the Harley parts next time around.    Who knows, maybe the HD parts have crappy chrome too?  Guess I'll find out soon as I just ordered a set of real HD mirrors.

J

[JCZ]

He has 100% positive feedback, 30 day return policy (buyer pays for return shipping).  Look at the reviews from those that have already bought the 4pt. docking hardware......   http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=wmxmoto&rt=nc 

[1BdBagr]

Screw that.  For $30 I'd try it.  If it does prove to be too thin or so light as to be unusable salvage the bushings for spares and throw the rest away.  Too inexpensive not to try when the OE option is six or seven times as much.

Lets look at this logically. Harley Davidson designs and builds a motorcycle (with parts from the USA as wells other countries), has a worldwide dealer network to sell and market the bike and related parts. They have an R&D department, a testing department, a legal department and a marketing arm. That includes printing up a nearly 1000 page catalog to pick the parts you want out of. You go buy a part, many times it's in a nicely design secure package with easy to understand instructions. The part generally fits first time and you're done. The counterfeiter/bootlegger buys a part, 3D scans it, produces it by the containerful and markets it on EBay and Amazon. No quality control, or very little, no warrantee and no recourse if a part failed that if it caused damage or injury. So is it any surprise that a vendor can offer a part for pennies on the dollar? Do you think that HD's end user prices are partially as they are because of stolen intellectual property and bootleg fraud?
Just something to consider. I really try not to support the counterfeiters if i can avoid it, even if that includes spending more money or buying from a legal on line HD dealer.
Tim

[Twolanerider]

Lets look at this logically. Harley Davidson designs and builds a motorcycle (with parts from the USA as wells other countries), has a worldwide dealer network to sell and market the bike and related parts. They have an R&D department, a testing department, a legal department and a marketing arm. That includes printing up a nearly 1000 page catalog to pick the parts you want out of. You go buy a part, many times it's in a nicely design secure package with easy to understand instructions. The part generally fits first time and you're done. The counterfeiter/bootlegger buys a part, 3D scans it, produces it by the containerful and markets it on EBay and Amazon. No quality control, or very little, no warrantee and no recourse if a part failed that if it caused damage or injury. So is it any surprise that a vendor can offer a part for pennies on the dollar? Do you think that HD's end user prices are partially as they are because of stolen intellectual property and bootleg fraud?
Just something to consider. I really try not to support the counterfeiters if i can avoid it, even if that includes spending more money or buying from a legal on line HD dealer.
Tim

Actually, not really.  At least not for far more of the P&A catalog than most care to realize.  Harley does some castings and some press molds at the factory where sheet metal is formed.  Beyond that it doesn't make a lot itself.  Granted, they pay people (as little as they possibly can) to do the things you're describing.  But they don't do it themselves.

I'm not going to argue any of this with anyone.  It's not a religious point for me.  There are companies whose chain I scrupulously adhere to.  I used to for HD.  They low-ball so much, and have for so long, at our expense (both our economies and a safety) that I'll gladly support the aftermarket. 

For all I know this part comes from Harley's OE and they have rights to sell some quantity on their own.  I don't know that.  Don't care either.  Since Harley has more lawyers on staff or retainer (just to watch for cease and desist targets) than it does designers and engineers such things are Harley's problem.  If they've got the balls to price a motorcycle at $40k they don't get to bitch if a rider looks for a place to save a buck.

[Dan_Lockwood]

I've been wanting to upgrade my '09 SERG headlights to LED. 

This is HD's Daymaker and they sell for $749.95.  These are the chrome background.



I'll be installing these this weekend.  I bought these off eBay for $169.99.  They have the same lumens for hi/low beams as the HD Daymaker.  They offer chrome background and blackout background.  I ordered the blackout background.  These were more money than most listed, but these were the only ones listed with the same low beam lumens as the HD Daymaker.  They are also listed as the same k color as the HD unit.  They appear to be made very well and the rear aluminum casting is really nice.  I'll see how easy they are to mount and give some feedback here on them.







$169.99 versus $749.99, if they work, it's a no brainer.  The company I bought from has a great review rating and offers no hassle returns.

[TN]

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised  I got a similar set. I use high beam durning the daytime for visibility and they work, my nighttime riding is limited anymore, curfew is dusk. Download the HD install instructions for reference, pay close attention to o-rings on the adjuster screws at the green clip, they weren't provided in my pkg and they do serve a purpose. another suggestion is to suck the top adjuster all the way in till it just clicks in the receiver, then adjust the bottom accordingly. you have to use the supplied bezel just because and mine required some attention to get proper fit. I also transferred the adjuster screws from my old bucket to the led's.

I was happy with the function of my HID's but it was a rats nest of wiring and installing the led's eliminated all of that was the main reason for my install.


Enjoy

TN

one more thing to add is I wrapped the plugs with a small strip of electrical tape to secure. I'm sorry I use silicone tape now

[Twolanerider]

I've been wanting to upgrade my '09 SERG headlights to LED. 

Dan, where does that rear aluminum piece go and what does it do?  Trying to visualize and it doesn't appear to attach to the light.

[Dan_Lockwood]

Dan, where does that rear aluminum piece go and what does it do?  Trying to visualize and it doesn't appear to attach to the light.

Thanks TN for the suggestions, I'll keep all of that in mind.

Don, I'm not sure where it goes at this point.

I have to remove fairing to get my radio out and re-tweak the faceplate terminals, so I'll be spending some time inside.

I'll take some pictures and see how it turns out.

They also had the chrome bezel and chrome beam background available at the same pricing.  If you order any, make sure that you get the ones with the 2400L for low like the HD Daymakers.  Most all of the other China Taiwan units have 1600L for the lows.  That's why I ended up at $169 instead of $149.

[Twolanerider]

Thanks TN for the suggestions, I'll keep all of that in mind.

Don, I'm not sure where it goes at this point.

I have to remove fairing to get my radio out and re-tweak the faceplate terminals, so I'll be spending some time inside.

I'll take some pictures and see how it turns out.

They also had the chrome bezel and chrome beam background available at the same pricing.  If you order any, make sure that you get the ones with the 2400L for low like the HD Daymakers.  Most all of the other China Taiwan units have 1600L for the lows.  That's why I ended up at $169 instead of $149.

 

[TN]

Without me comparing the two products maybe my tips are all for naught. I went the cheaper route. I'm sure the install will be a piece of cake for you.     I'll be looking for your review.

Don, the aluminum piece you ask about goes between the light bucket holes in the fairing for reinforcement of the fairing, there is a piece front and back that sandwiches the fairing. The led weighs a bit more than the stock assembly. If I'm speaking about the same piece. 

I may take a nite ride 


TN