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Hanoi Jane
« on: February 21, 2007, 07:11:23 PM »

There's an e-mail circulating from a former Vietnam POW that details the treason committed by Jane Fonda in Hanoi at the infamous Hanoi Hilton durin the Vietnam War. Hanoi Jane is up for an award naming her one of the top 100 Women of the Decade. The e-mail asks everyone to do whatever they can to block Fonda from receiving the award. If anyone on the site got the e-mail please post it here for everyone to read. My apologies if it's painful to any of you Nam vets to read, but I believe this information needs to be out there for folks too young to remember or maybe some that didn't know what she did. I don't believe there's a statue of limitation on Treason, maybe she can still be brought up on charges.

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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 06:31:36 AM »

Too many people have written off the VietNam era as "just one of those times".  It is far from that and we all need to be held accountable for our actions.  Hanoi Jane is no different to me than the Nazis to me.  Catch them when you can and make them answer for their actions, even if many years ago.
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 06:46:11 AM »

Even as much as I need to exercise more and loose weight, there is not a J*&^ F%$#@ video in the Ryan Household.


DiscovertheNetworks.org

Has tons of links to other stories and information about this all down the left column;

Book:

Aid and Comfort: Jane Fonda in North Vietnam
By Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer
2002

Articles:

An American Traitor: Guilty As Charged
By Henry Mark Holzer and Erika Holzer
June 9, 2005

Sorry, Jane, Apology Not Accepted
By Allan H. Ryskind
April 8, 2005

Jane Fonda's "Apology": New Whine in Old Bottles
By Henry Mark Holzer
April 7, 2005

Fonda's Selective Silence
By Jamie Glazov
February 1, 2007

A Hate-America "Peace" Rally
By John Perazzo
February 1, 2007

Administration 'Mean Spirited, Vengeful,' Fonda Tells Anti-War Throng
By Monisha Bansal
January 29, 2007

Relishing Defeat
By Jacob Laksin
January 29, 2007

Jane Stands Up Gorgeous George
By Sarah Baxter
September 25, 2005

Traitors' Tour: Galloway and Fonda
By Discover The Networks
September 2005

Hanoi Jane Refuses to Apologize for Betrayal of America
By Michelle Malkin
April 6, 2005

We Won't Forget, Jane: Honoring a Traitor
By Michael Benge

Lest We Forget: The Case Against Jane Fonda
By Edward J. Renehan, Jr.
September 24, 2002

Justice for Hanoi Jane's Victims
By Ronald Radosh
March 26, 2002

Jane Fonda's Magical Mystery Tour
By Kathleen Parker
July 27, 2005

'Hanoi Jane' Fonda Honor Withdrawn
NewsMax
March 16, 2006

The Case Against "Hanoi Jane"
Geoff Matcalf's interview with Henry Holzer
March 17, 2002

Timeline (John Kerry and the Anti-War Movement)
By WinterSoldier.com
April 2004

Photo of Kerry with Fonda Enrages Vietnam Veterans
By Stephen Dinan
February 11, 2004

V-Day: The Feminist War Against Love
By David Horowitz
February 9, 2001

The Baghdad Boys: Technically Not Traitors
By Henry Mark Holzer
October 10, 2002

Matters of Treason: Reply to Roger Clegg
By David Horowitz
June 6, 2001

See No Freedom, Hear No Freedom, Speak No Freedom
By Greg Yardley
April 10, 2003

Jane Fonda Speaking at an Antiwar Rally in New York City, 1972
Vietnam Veterans Legacy Foundation

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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 07:51:26 AM »

There's an e-mail circulating from a former Vietnam POW that details the treason committed by Jane Fonda in Hanoi at the infamous Hanoi Hilton durin the Vietnam War. Hanoi Jane is up for an award naming her one of the top 100 Women of the Decade. The e-mail asks everyone to do whatever they can to block Fonda from receiving the award. If anyone on the site got the e-mail please post it here for everyone to read. My apologies if it's painful to any of you Nam vets to read, but I believe this information needs to be out there for folks too young to remember or maybe some that didn't know what she did. I don't believe there's a statue of limitation on Treason, maybe she can still be brought up on charges.

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good point BB ..to hell with her
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2007, 09:25:17 AM »

Never cared for the bitch anyway.
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2007, 11:27:22 AM »

Spider, I can't stand the woman.  Never paid to see one of her films and don't intend to.  But I never went along with the more reasoned or the more rabid calls to indict her for treason.

On the Federal log I don't believe you'll find a statute of limitations for treason, sedition or espionage actually.  The latter of them being the far more common charge for the various treasonous acts people have been caught doing over the years.  There's only been like 40 or Federal indictments for treason in the history of the Republic.  And too many of those have had a scent of politics as part of the activity.

That's separate and apart from why Fonda should not have been so indicted though.  Nor is it that the language of Article 3 Section 3 defining treason ("levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort") is a bit of a "maybe" in this case.  There was certainly an argument to be made if one were so inclined.  It gets more problematic when you consider the Court in Ex Parte Bollman ("there must be an actual assembling of men, for the treasonable purpose, to constitute a levying of war") but one could at least push the charge if he had a mind to do so.

My opinion on Fonda and treason is based solely on the belief that she's not worth it.  To charge her so elevates her (or would have done so) and woudl have made her a martyr on a much larger stage.  Treason is a big deal.  It is and should be.  That's why it is the only crime defined in the Constitution.  Our fears of its overuse as a charge in England for purely political purposes is both warning and guidance.  Fonda never earned being elevated to that stage.

So (you're thinking), she should have gotten off free?  Nope, that's where some (or several) Federal prosecutors chickened out.  She was almost certainly guilty of violating the Logan Act.  Her own actions and press would have made the case.  Sometime someone somewhere should have so indicted her, given her the very public trial she would have made sure she got, and thrown her ass in a Federal pen for three years.  Inhospitable accomodations.  When that was over she'd have had a completely new understanding of "aid and comfort."
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2007, 01:44:39 PM »

She's not worth the effort, besides look at who gives out those awards anyway, Let her have it! Most awards are a bunch of #@!&%$!!!!! We know who she really is and so do most Americans!! 
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2007, 05:42:17 PM »

Traitor bitch for sure.

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp

Way late on the email notice.
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The opposite of Hanoi Jane
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 05:09:29 PM »

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/margret.asp

Bless Ann's heart!!!

                       And the rest of her too.
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Re: The opposite of Hanoi Jane
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2007, 06:51:51 PM »

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/margret.asp
Bless Ann's heart!!!
And the rest of her too.

YEAH, WHAT HE SAID!! Quite a package there, right up there with Sophia me thinks! :mango:

Besides Jane slept with the AAA gun crew while she was there.

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Re: The opposite of Hanoi Jane
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2007, 06:58:29 PM »

YEAH, WHAT HE SAID!! Quite a package there, right up there with Sophia me thinks! :mango:

Besides Jane slept with the AAA gun crew while she was there.



Wasn't Anne one of Elvis's girls ?    ;)

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Re: The opposite of Hanoi Jane
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2007, 07:13:49 PM »

Wasn't Anne one of Elvis's girls ?    ;)

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Yes, BB, Ann-Margaret was one of Elvi's main squeezes.  Damn, she was HOT!  Probably still is.  Later--HUBBARD
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Re: Hanoi Jane
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2007, 07:19:09 PM »

"Man Spits Tobacco Juice In Jane Fonda's Face At Book Signing."  Ahhhhhhhh........What I would have given to witness that August Event.  Mr. Michael
Smith, fellow American, I Salute you, Sir.  Here, Here!  Later--HUBBARD
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