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Baker DD6
« on: February 27, 2007, 05:44:34 PM »

I've done a search and have found that several have 6 speed trans in their "prior to 07" bikes, and everyone seems to like them. I've yet to make the leap and am interested in feedback from someone with the Baker DD6 and the noticeable difference between running stock and the 6 speed.

The obvious answer of having the extra gear doesn't count.

Thanks!
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 06:50:48 PM »

I've done a search and have found that several have 6 speed trans in their "prior to 07" bikes, and everyone seems to like them. I've yet to make the leap and am interested in feedback from someone with the Baker DD6 and the noticeable difference between running stock and the 6 speed.

The obvious answer of having the extra gear doesn't count.

Thanks!

I have an 07 Road Glide with a stock H-D 6-speed and an 03 SERK with a Baker DD6. The Road Glide has been bumped up to 103" and actually has more muscle than the 03 SERK. The difference between the two trans IMHO is that with the stock 6-speed you don't shift into 6th until you can run a steady 70 mph. With the Baker you can pop it into 6th at just above 60 and you've still got torque for throttle roll on situations. I like the Baker more than the H-D 6. It has a lot better feel to it. I know that's a really subjective answer, but that's the best I can give you.

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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 09:34:09 PM »

Last year I read the description of the Baker 6 speed in a sales brochure and when the new MOCO brochure came out the exact same description described the new 6 speed.  Could the MOCO transmission be a Baker 6 speed? 

Anyone work at the plant on this site that can answer that?
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 09:38:47 PM »

Last year I read the description of the Baker 6 speed in a sales brochure and when the new MOCO brochure came out the exact same description described the new 6 speed.  Could the MOCO transmission be a Baker 6 speed? 

Anyone work at the plant on this site that can answer that?

I believe that Jim's supplies H-D with trannies, but I could be wrong.

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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 12:26:17 AM »

I have an 07 Road Glide with a stock H-D 6-speed and an 03 SERK with a Baker DD6. The Road Glide has been bumped up to 103" and actually has more muscle than the 03 SERK. The difference between the two trans IMHO is that with the stock 6-speed you don't shift into 6th until you can run a steady 70 mph. With the Baker you can pop it into 6th at just above 60 and you've still got torque for throttle roll on situations. I like the Baker more than the H-D 6. It has a lot better feel to it. I know that's a really subjective answer, but that's the best I can give you.

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I was surprised tonight at the lack of torque going from 5th to 6th. In 6th going around 70 there was no power or torque.

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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2007, 02:06:41 AM »

I was surprised tonight at the lack of torque going from 5th to 6th. In 6th going around 70 there was no power or torque.

AJ, there were many before the 6 speeds were stock pieces who added the tranny not realizing they'd rarely utilize the gear box.  Or who did so with a rear end and ear so out of tune to their engine that they didn't realize they were lugging the engine a bit.  With the gearing we had in the SEEGs (for example) normal highway cruising at 75 or less really had you at an RPM in the torque curve where the 6 speed just wasn't used. 

I've got a 6 speed in the red bike.  But it didn't have for a long time.  When it got its new cams that work moved the torque curve in early enough that the 6 speed could actually be utilized.  Then it was at least a functional addition.  Prior to that it would have been just a pretty ornamented side cover to look at.
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2007, 02:21:22 AM »

I've done a search and have found that several have 6 speed trans in their "prior to 07" bikes, and everyone seems to like them. I've yet to make the leap and am interested in feedback from someone with the Baker DD6 and the noticeable difference between running stock and the 6 speed.

The obvious answer of having the extra gear doesn't count.

Thanks!

THE BAKER DD6 IS FAR SUPERIOR THAN THE HD CHATTER BOX. THE BAKER WHEN 6TH GEAR, IS DIRECT, MEANING THAT THE OTHER 5 GEARS ARE JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE AND ARE NOT WORKING, WHICH RESULTS IN LESS FRICTION, LESS HEAT, AND MORE TORQUE. YOU COULD NOT GIVE ME A HD 6 SPEED AND I DONT EVEN HAVE A BAKER ....YET.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 07:02:17 AM »

AJ, there were many before the 6 speeds were stock pieces who added the tranny not realizing they'd rarely utilize the gear box.  Or who did so with a rear end and ear so out of tune to their engine that they didn't realize they were lugging the engine a bit.  With the gearing we had in the SEEGs (for example) normal highway cruising at 75 or less really had you at an RPM in the torque curve where the 6 speed just wasn't used. 

I've got a 6 speed in the red bike.  But it didn't have for a long time.  When it got its new cams that work moved the torque curve in early enough that the 6 speed could actually be utilized.  Then it was at least a functional addition.  Prior to that it would have been just a pretty ornamented side cover to look at.

That's pretty much how I feel now. Nice to know it's there but not as functional as I thought.

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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2007, 08:11:08 AM »

That's pretty much how I feel now. Nice to know it's there but not as functional as I thought.
I must be looking for a different kind of torque than you AJ  ;)  My bike pulls like a diesel from about 2000 rpm and up in sixth gear and really rolls on nicely starting at about 2500 rpm. (65mph).  Now that could be the difference in our header pipes too.  The V&Hs tend to have the torque roll on earlier than the Rineharts, but lose a little on the top-end HP.  At least that's what I've seen on the various dynos.  I use 6th alot and don't have any noticeable problems with power...but those are just my observations...maybe I'm missing something. :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2007, 11:44:07 AM »

Thanks to all who took the time to reply.

I failed to mention that I have the Zippers 575 Red shift gear driven cam, and their air cleaner. Also have Bassani true dual and the SERT. The bike runs like a champ.

I'm pretty much sold on the Baker DD6. Now it's just a matter of time and money (more about time).

One last thing: Did you guys have to recal your speedos?

Thanks again.

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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2007, 11:51:12 AM »

That's pretty much how I feel now. Nice to know it's there but not as functional as I thought.

Can't speak for anyone else's motives of course.  But my motivation for getting the 6 speed and the benefit of its functionality is perhaps different than what others have convinced themselves is their reason.

The units are not "cost effective" as an addition.  You'll never, NEVER EVEN CLOSE, save enough fuel to justify the cost.  My reasons are, mostly, more selfish.  I occasionally ride moderately long days.  Lowering the noise and the attendant other things on a long day makes the ride a bit more comfortable.  I'm not 23 anymore and if I can save feeling beat up at the end of a long day that's a good thing.

Even though it's not a big difference it is a real difference.  I'd never have installed the tranny, even after the gear change, were it just for short hops or more local riding.  The benefit for me is nice days when you spin it for hours and hours and hours and get to climb off that night knowing your feeling a little better, and will be in the morning too, than you might have otherwise.
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2007, 12:35:49 PM »

I've considered this install as well, and may well do it one of these days, particularly if I do cams and see a real need for it at that point in time.

Am I an atypical rider, is my question?  Not to say that I never run the bike down around the 2K mark in 5th, but it's not very often.  And my shift points are typically around 3500 when I'm just riding around...4K if I'm riding fun roads.  The motor seems to like to be shifted there, and if I'm riding curvy roads, I'm trying to stay in a gear that will brake the bike entering and be in a good RPM range exiting.  On the highway, I generally run from 72-76MPH, which roughly translates to 3000-3200...not because I don't like to go faster at times, but simply because all the wind noise/buffeting seems to get a lot worse up around 80...significantly so.  That wears me out faster on a long day than listening to the pipes/engine.  Riding around at 2k, the pipes seem LOUDER to me than when cruising at 3k or a bit higher, so around town I'm often not even getting into 5th, much less 6th, if I had it.

In fact, one of the reasons I'm looking more seriously at the FC14SE cam is BECAUSE the tq seems to come in just a bit later and stay longer...right where I like to hear the engine.

Is this contrary to the way most of you ride? :nixweiss:
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2007, 12:51:52 PM »



One last thing: Did you guys have to recal your speedos?

Thanks again.





You will have to recalibrate the speedo. My DD-6 came with a S&S recal kit
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2007, 04:23:05 PM »

I've considered this install as well, and may well do it one of these days, particularly if I do cams and see a real need for it at that point in time.

Am I an atypical rider, is my question?  Not to say that I never run the bike down around the 2K mark in 5th, but it's not very often.  And my shift points are typically around 3500 when I'm just riding around...4K if I'm riding fun roads.  The motor seems to like to be shifted there, and if I'm riding curvy roads, I'm trying to stay in a gear that will brake the bike entering and be in a good RPM range exiting.  On the highway, I generally run from 72-76MPH, which roughly translates to 3000-3200...not because I don't like to go faster at times, but simply because all the wind noise/buffeting seems to get a lot worse up around 80...significantly so.  That wears me out faster on a long day than listening to the pipes/engine.  Riding around at 2k, the pipes seem LOUDER to me than when cruising at 3k or a bit higher, so around town I'm often not even getting into 5th, much less 6th, if I had it.

In fact, one of the reasons I'm looking more seriously at the FC14SE cam is BECAUSE the tq seems to come in just a bit later and stay longer...right where I like to hear the engine.

Is this contrary to the way most of you ride? :nixweiss:

Sounds like we share a road style TC.
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Re: Baker DD6
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2007, 06:36:07 PM »

Thanks to all who took the time to reply.

I failed to mention that I have the Zippers 575 Red shift gear driven cam, and their air cleaner. Also have Bassani true dual and the SERT. The bike runs like a champ.

I'm pretty much sold on the Baker DD6. Now it's just a matter of time and money (more about time).

One last thing: Did you guys have to recal your speedos?
Thanks again.



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