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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #210 on: May 09, 2007, 02:29:26 PM »

Chief-

Don't be afraid to use the supplied double sided tape on the ballasts-I think the inner fairing will break before the ballasts would come loose.  

Jim/Ernie-

It sounds like mine is mounted as you did Ernies.

The stuff they supplied with mine wasn't actually two sided tape (foam tape) but that 3M tape used to adhere automotive emblems to car bodies.  That's stout stuff.  If it holds an emblem on a car going down the road and survives rain, snow, sleet, hail, debris, grime and road salt it should live inside the fairing just fine (though I put a tie wrap around mine just because I could and I'm anal about such things).
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #211 on: May 09, 2007, 03:05:03 PM »

Chief-

Don't be afraid to use the supplied double sided tape on the ballasts-I think the inner fairing will break before the ballasts would come loose.  

Jim/Ernie-

It sounds like mine is mounted as you did Ernies.

I did use the supplied tape. That's what I'm mounting the square units, what I'm calling the ignitors, to the top of the CB and XM modules on top of the radio. Aren't the ballasts the round units just before the lights?

Do I have it backwards? Square units = Ignitors and Round cylinders = ballasts. At least that's what I'm calling them.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #212 on: May 09, 2007, 03:06:03 PM »

The stuff they supplied with mine wasn't actually two sided tape (foam tape) but that 3M tape used to adhere automotive emblems to car bodies.  That's stout stuff.  If it holds an emblem on a car going down the road and survives rain, snow, sleet, hail, debris, grime and road salt it should live inside the fairing just fine (though I put a tie wrap around mine just because I could and I'm anal about such things).

Didn't you mount the square boxes to the HW satellites?
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #213 on: May 09, 2007, 03:17:34 PM »

Chief-

The rectangular box that Naitram has pictured with the writing is the ballast and the cylinders coming off the ballasts are the ignitors/excitors.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #214 on: May 09, 2007, 03:56:59 PM »

Chief-

The rectangular box that Naitram has pictured with the writing is the ballast and the cylinders coming off the ballasts are the ignitors/excitors.

Looks like I got it backwards once again. Found this on the xtralites site



Power => Ballast => Ignitor => Bulb

Now don't y'all go forgetting that again.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #215 on: May 09, 2007, 09:56:54 PM »

Didn't you mount the square boxes to the HW satellites?

Yes, had those HW brackets already there for convenient access.  Speaker component on the front side.  So hung the ballasts on the back side of them.  Used that two sided 3M tape supplied and put a tie wrap around them for good measure (actually two tie wraps).
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #216 on: May 10, 2007, 06:17:41 AM »

... but that 3M tape used to adhere automotive emblems to car bodies.  That's stout stuff.  If it holds an emblem on a car going down the road and survives rain, snow, sleet, hail, debris, grime and road salt it should live inside the fairing just fine ...

Don told me about this 3M tape once while installing the air cleaner cover, and it stopped me from using liquid nails.

I had to get help from the Auto Zone folks to find it, but he is right, it is some strong stuff. 
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #217 on: May 11, 2007, 04:06:26 PM »

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Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp Kit

The Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp features advanced reflector optics and separate bulbs for high and low beam functions.

........................................................

Well that was waaaaay more than I wanted to spend on my headlight but it is all ordered now!
New HD twin bulb halogen set up & then the xtralights HID H9 conversion. From all your comments I know it will be worth it! :nervous:   I never ride much in the dark I suppose mainly because I couldn't see as well as I wanted to. I have tried many different halogen bulbs but all as you know they make very little difference over stock lighting.
Thanks especially to twolane for starting off this unexpected hole in my wallet!  :soapbox: (best part of 800 ozz $)


Cheers
Aussie


I'm starting to get a bit :soapbox: now! I ordered my dual lamp housing (& a couple of other goodies) from Chicago HD on 23rd April & they still have not shipped yet, they say they are very busy because it is spring! I just think it is poor service especially when they hit you credit card the day you place the order. I will probably will have paid my card before I even see the parts! WTF! I have found that on my last few orders they (Chicago) are getting slower & slower! (no mention of back orders from them either)
I generally recieve orders from the USA in around 5 days. This includes my HID lighting kit which has been sitting there since 28th April.
I may have to give Chicago a miss & buy from M&M they are very fast & very friendly as well. Their prices on HD parts are very close to Chicago also.

Cheers
Aussie
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #218 on: May 11, 2007, 04:23:12 PM »


I'm starting to get a bit :soapbox: now! I ordered my dual lamp housing (& a couple of other goodies) from Chicago HD on 23rd April & they still have not shipped yet, they say they are very busy because it is spring! I just think it is poor service especially when they hit you credit card the day you place the order. I will probably will have paid my card before I even see the parts! WTF! I have found that on my last few orders they (Chicago) are getting slower & slower! (no mention of back orders from them either)
I generally recieve orders from the USA in around 5 days. This includes my HID lighting kit which has been sitting there since 28th April.
I may have to give Chicago a miss & buy from M&M they are very fast & very friendly as well. Their prices on HD parts are very close to Chicago also.

Cheers
Aussie
Don't feel alone Bro. I placed an order w/them on April 14, and it just shipped yesterday. Took several emails to finally get my stuff shipped to me. They'll send you an email and say that if the stuff has to be ordered it should be ready to ship to you in 7 - 10 days, but that's not holding true. I was told a week ago that all my parts were in and was in line to be shipped. After waiting 6 more days I sent them another email asking how could everything be there and it take almost a week to ship, the next day I got an email stating my order had been shipped. I have some more stuff I want to order and told them that in the email and also told them that this experience hasn't been a promising encounter. I'll wait for my parts to get here and then decide if I'll order from them again. :nixweiss:

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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #219 on: May 11, 2007, 04:24:06 PM »


I'm starting to get a bit :soapbox: now! I ordered my dual lamp housing (& a couple of other goodies) from Chicago HD on 23rd April & they still have not shipped yet, they say they are very busy because it is spring! I just think it is poor service especially when they hit you credit card the day you place the order. I will probably will have paid my card before I even see the parts! WTF! I have found that on my last few orders they (Chicago) are getting slower & slower! (no mention of back orders from them either)
I generally recieve orders from the USA in around 5 days. This includes my HID lighting kit which has been sitting there since 28th April.
I may have to give Chicago a miss & buy from M&M they are very fast & very friendly as well. Their prices on HD parts are very close to Chicago also.

Cheers
Aussie

Try Zanotti.  Have found them to be often cheaper than Chicago HD and (anymore) always quicker.  Also very good about posting backorder or other pertinent information.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #220 on: May 11, 2007, 04:36:59 PM »

Don't feel alone Bro. I placed an order w/them on April 14, and it just shipped yesterday. Took several emails to finally get my stuff shipped to me. They'll send you an email and say that if the stuff has to be ordered it should be ready to ship to you in 7 - 10 days, but that's not holding true. I was told a week ago that all my parts were in and was in line to be shipped. After waiting 6 more days I sent them another email asking how could everything be there and it take almost a week to ship, the next day I got an email stating my order had been shipped. I have some more stuff I want to order and told them that in the email and also told them that this experience hasn't been a promising encounter. I'll wait for my parts to get here and then decide if I'll order from them again. :nixweiss:

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Dood,

Thanks for that, I was thinking it was just international customers that were mucked around. Well I got the email yesterday stating all my parts are in stock & should ship in the next coulpe of days but they do put that word in there "SHOULD"

Cheers
Aussie

PS: these parts guys just dont understand  :confused5: OCD!
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #221 on: May 11, 2007, 04:38:23 PM »

The interference I'm experiencing is from the ignitors, not the ballasts. It is also very sensitive to location. Seems that where I had it ty-rap'd was one of the bad spots.

Note: The interference is most notable in the headset and is not related to output volume. The noise is there with zero volume.

My plan is to test each location by assembling the light, putting on the helmet and moving the ignitor around while the bulb is running. When I find a quiet spot, I'll ty-rap it there. I'll also try to not blind myself testing this.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #222 on: May 11, 2007, 04:42:12 PM »

Try Zanotti.  Have found them to be often cheaper than Chicago HD and (anymore) always quicker.  Also very good about posting backorder or other pertinent information.


Twolane,

I have looked at Zanotti but they do not really cater for the international customer. They will ship international but I must order by unsecure emails. I just prefer secure online automated orders.

Cheers
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #223 on: May 11, 2007, 06:15:32 PM »

Well, the noise is gone, except for 3 or 4 seconds at initial start-up, and when turning on the hi-beam. I actually would up adding about 12 inches of wire to both the high and low beams, between the ignitors and the bulbs. In hind sight, I should have added the wire to the bulbs instead of the ballast / ignitor assemblies. There is just more wire available in the bulb harnesses than there is in the main harnesses. The ignitors are mounted to the outer fairing brackets, one per side. The extra wire will make getting to the bulbs much easier.
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Re: HID Alternative---Dual HID bulbs for high and low beam
« Reply #224 on: May 26, 2007, 09:51:54 AM »

67864-04



Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp Kit

The Dual Bulb Halogen Headlamp features advanced reflector optics and separate bulbs for high and low beam functions.

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Well that was waaaaay more than I wanted to spend on my headlight but it is all ordered now!
New HD twin bulb halogen set up & then the xtralights HID H9 conversion. From all your comments I know it will be worth it! :nervous:   I never ride much in the dark I suppose mainly because I couldn't see as well as I wanted to. I have tried many different halogen bulbs but all as you know they make very little difference over stock lighting.
Thanks especially to twolane for starting off this unexpected hole in my wallet!  :soapbox: (best part of 800 ozz $)


Cheers
Aussie



Well 2lane I must say thanks again! I finally got my dual lamp housing early this week & fitted it on thursday night & went for a test ride on friday night. I must say i am very impressed, I finally got to enjoy a ride at night. I passed a new SUV on a country road who had its lights on high beam & as I was passing him I flicked mine on to high beam. Well I can only imagine the guy in the flash new SUV must have been pissed when he saw how good my light was compared with his. I am now able to ride at night in pretty much the same manor as I ride during the day, it's great & worth every penny spent. At night i wear yellow glasses & with the blue light it seemed to look fairly white to me, either way no matter what the colour is the vision is exellent. I will have to add this to my favourite mods list. The installation was also too easy & everything fitted nicely inside my nacelle, i used the small mounting brackets that came in the HID kit to mount the ballasts. There was alot more room in there than i expected.

Cheers
Aussie  :biggthumpup:
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