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A bit of tyre input.
« on: December 20, 2018, 10:17:11 AM »


     I changed from the Dunlops over to Michelin Commander 2's.
I'm running 130/90 B16 73H on the front and 140/90 B16 74H on the rear.

I've got near 400 miles on them now running in dry and wet conditions. 

I've got to say that these tyres are by far  greater then the Dunlops.  On these side of the pond we have an over abundance of aroundabouts and there's been a number of times where I've been on the roundabout and the Dunlops have slipped " fortunately I've not been on a hard lean" so on the roundabouts I would tend to to take them on a more of a  upright position " not trusting the tyress" they have also slipped when cornering , needless to say it gives one a bit of a chill.

Since I've had the Michelins on the bike it feels and handles so much better,  I can't really describe just how much better the performance and handling these tyres make to the ride.

I'd recommend these Michelin Commander 2's to any one wanting to change rubber.

Thought I'd just give a little input


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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 10:25:31 AM »

I prefer the Commander II’s as well


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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 11:45:20 AM »

Thanks, am considering changing to these next tire change. Mostly good reports from what I have seen. 
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 12:16:58 PM »

Thanks, am considering changing to these next tire change. Mostly good reports from what I have seen.

I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

I'm completely shocked the difference these tyres make over Dunlops.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 12:17:15 PM »

I've gone from Avons to Michelins as well and no regrets.  Never really liked the stock Dunlops but may try the American Elite next.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 01:11:11 PM »

Ran across this video and found it interesting

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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 01:28:55 PM »

I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

I'm completely shocked the difference these tyres make over Dunlops.

Will be interested in tire life comparison to the Dunlops.  Better grip & cornering performance outweigh that, am hoping tire life does not suffer too much.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 02:02:44 PM »

I have gotten 17K to 19K with my D407 & D408 Dunlop Elites, as long as I don't run over a nail, and have 12K on my current tires with tons of tread left.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 03:11:10 PM »

Will be interested in tire life comparison to the Dunlops.  Better grip & cornering performance outweigh that, am hoping tire life does not suffer too much.


What Michelin says,..

Why choose MICHELIN Commander II?
Proven Longevity

MICHELIN Commander II can last for up to 25,000 miles in back*. A new standard in longevity!

 

*According to commissioned third party tests conducted in 2011 on public roads comparing MICHELIN Commander II, Metzeler ME880 and Dunlop D407/408 tires in sizes 130/80B17 and 180/65B16. Individual results may vary depending on motorcycle type and operating conditions.

 

No Compromise on Stability
and Maneuverability

Thanks to its high-density and therefore stiffer frame (MICHELIN Amplified Density Technology), MICHELIN Commander II features premium handling and responsiveness. The top layers in rear tires are made of aramid fibers, which combine resistance and a lightweight feel for perfect stability, even at high speeds.

Excellent Grip on Wet Surfaces

An brand new longitudinal tread provides outstanding water evacuation, and thus excellent grip on wet surfaces.


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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 03:29:46 PM »

You know, Pete, the MoCo has started using Michelin as OEM more, too.  I like their performance on Vickie's Super Low 883 Sportster from a couple years ago.  They rode very nice so next tire change on the '15 may be to Michelin... :2vrolijk_21:

Thanks for the write-up, brother.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 04:07:30 PM »

Ultimately I'm not doing much performance riding on my Harley and not much wet weather riding either.  The longer life is more important when looking at the trade-off illustrated in the video, which is ultimately why I chose the Michelins.  And they are a remarkably good tire with a much better ride and feel than many I've run in the past.  I wouldn't call them an inferior performing tire wet or dry in any respect, for my use anyway.  Maybe the Dunlop Elite performance level is more than I really need anyway.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 04:27:42 PM »

Ran across this video and found it interesting



i found the interesting part to be where he calls the stock dunlop, the 'american elite'.  two different tires, two different tread patterns.  i would have like a direct comparison on the actual american elite vs the michelin, as opposed to the stock dunlop vs michelin.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2018, 04:48:33 PM »

You know, Pete, the MoCo has started using Michelin as OEM more, too.  I like their performance on Vickie's Super Low 883 Sportster from a couple years ago.  They rode very nice so next tire change on the '15 may be to Michelin... :2vrolijk_21:

Thanks for the write-up, brother.

  You bet Howard  :2vrolijk_21:

  I also like the look of the tyre compared to the Dunlops on the front, for me anyway the tyre seems to give  the front wheel a beefier look that's in proportion with the rest of the bike.
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2018, 04:49:54 PM »

 :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: A bit of tyre input.
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2018, 05:18:33 PM »

Ultimately I'm not doing much performance riding on my Harley and not much wet weather riding either.  The longer life is more important when looking at the trade-off illustrated in the video, which is ultimately why I chose the Michelins.  And they are a remarkably good tire with a much better ride and feel than many I've run in the past.  I wouldn't call them an inferior performing tire wet or dry in any respect, for my use anyway.  Maybe the Dunlop Elite performance level is more than I really need anyway.

 That's pretty much how I was looking at it when I was looking for a tyre that suited my riding style which one could describe as a laid back style. This is the second time that I've moved away from Dunlops the last time I went with Continental that proved a mistake.
My main concern was getting as high a mileage as possible and a good all weather running tyre and so far I think I may have it.
I had entertained the idea of radial tyres but that was about as far as it went.

I got the all weather the handling feels just as good in the wet as in the dry, the mileage is well yet to be seen.
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