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Swingarm questions
« on: March 17, 2007, 05:44:11 PM »

While in Daytona I saw another version of a True Track or Ride Str8.

www.alloyart.com

This unit has 3 different adjustment points.

Looking for opinions on these or any other units

Also while talking to these guys at alloyart.com i reitterated the importance of making sure that the bike is alligned before any device is bolted to any bike. Seems to me that if you bolt any of these units to a bike that is not alligned then you have not done anything but strengthened the misalignment.
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2007, 06:11:36 PM »

While in Daytona I saw another version of a True Track or Ride Str8.

www.alloyart.com

This unit has 3 different adjustment points.

Looking for opinions on these or any other units

Also while talking to these guys at alloyart.com i reitterated the importance of making sure that the bike is alligned before any device is bolted to any bike. Seems to me that if you bolt any of these units to a bike that is not alligned then you have not done anything but strengthened the misalignment.

Holy crap! Did you see those Bilstein Air Shocks! Those things looks awesome. They're pretty pricey though. Bummer. This is getting out of control. Stop putting all this cool chit up here guys! Not!!! ;) Hoist!
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2007, 06:25:13 PM »

That suspension stabilizer is an impressive looking part Brian.  The guys using the Rivco center stand wouldn't be able to use both it and their center stand.  But it's an impressive looking piece nonetheless.

So..... did you get one?
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2007, 06:29:06 PM »

Holy crap! Did you see those Bilstein Air Shocks! Those things looks awesome. They're pretty pricey though. Bummer. This is getting out of control. Stop putting all this cool chit up here guys! Not!!! ;) Hoist!

Expensive....  Yeap.  But they aren't but a little bit more than the Legends package is.  It's all relative.  So, if; relatively speaking, some of the guys could get the Legends and it was ok then, relatively speaking, these are only a little bit more.  A little bit is cheap.  So, relatively speaking, these shocks are cheap.   (it's all in the math)
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2007, 08:14:29 PM »

And here I am debating buying another tru-track for LD. The stuff in the link on this thread must cost as much as a Sportster.

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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2007, 08:25:39 PM »

http://store.fatbaggers.com/tractionmaster.html  another version i just came upon. Also some other bagger products discounted......
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2007, 08:30:50 PM »

That's some nice looking stuff!!  The shocks, by the time you buy the Legends and the chrome handlebar switch, are only $150 more than the Legends.  Definitely something to consider for those who need the ride adjustability, but don't need the lowering ability provided by the Legends.  I'm really happy with the Legends because I NEED to get the bike lower at certain times, but these look like good ones.

Don, you gonna be the guinea pig on those? :2vrolijk_21: ;D

Their brace for the swingarm looks like a winner as well...and it's polished!!!  More stealth shiney pieces to get down on your knees and look at... ;) 8)
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2007, 09:47:11 PM »

One thing I liked was the way they incorporated air deflection toward the trans pan. Seems that the other units don't have this and it is possible that there is no way for air to get to the pan and cool the oil.

The shocks are on the to do list but I  need to get rid of Bessie's rear end shimmy first. It is real bad!!!!!!
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2007, 09:53:28 PM »

One thing I liked was the way they incorporated air deflection toward the trans pan. Seems that the other units don't have this and it is possible that there is no way for air to get to the pan and cool the oil.

The shocks are on the to do list but I  need to get rid of Bessie's rear end shimmy first. It is real bad!!!!!!

Hey Brian, do you know anything about these guys? They got great looking stuff. Pricey too! Are these guys the real deal. Do they make this stuff or distribute it? For 1800 bucks, I wanna know those shocks are the absolute best! Thanks. Hoist! 8)
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2007, 10:40:42 PM »

Hey Brian, do you know anything about these guys? They got great looking stuff. Pricey too! Are these guys the real deal. Do they make this stuff or distribute it? For 1800 bucks, I wanna know those shocks are the absolute best! Thanks. Hoist! 8)

Howie, I met these guys through David Munos at Performance Machine. I am not sure if it was Jamer or Robbie or both that were engineers at  PM. They left  PM and formed their own company. All the parts I looked at looked first class.
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2007, 09:33:47 AM »

Howie, I met these guys through David Munos at Performance Machine. I am not sure if it was Jamer or Robbie or both that were engineers at  PM. They left  PM and formed their own company. All the parts I looked at looked first class.


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You're done buddy. Just send the check and the pain will be gone.

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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2007, 10:30:16 AM »

While in Daytona I saw another version of a True Track or Ride Str8.

www.alloyart.com

This unit has 3 different adjustment points.

Looking for opinions on these or any other units

Also while talking to these guys at alloyart.com i reitterated the importance of making sure that the bike is alligned before any device is bolted to any bike. Seems to me that if you bolt any of these units to a bike that is not alligned then you have not done anything but strengthened the misalignment.

Brian, welcome back!

I think you hit the nail on the head, bike needs to be aligned regardless.  I have never experienced high speed wobble on my bike or any other kind of wobble for that matter and I ride fast.  Any handling issues I have had were related to aerodynamics (i.e. fairing lowers, crosswinds, etc.), nothing that could be fixed by adding one of these devices.  But, here is my opinion on this particular device:  looks like a Klingon bird of prey flying under your bike!  Looks too complicated and I don't like the mount to the trans pan, that connection needs to be rigid and this design looks like a simple plate using long bolts and spacers which in my mind is subject to flexing.  In my opinion, someone needs to design one that is the trans cover, not bolts over, so air can cool the trans fluid.

There have been a number of site members who have installed these devices and say they work, others don't really know if they do or not but feel better they have them, I don't know one way or another.  I just know I don't have a problem, so I'll save my $$$ for more chrome!
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Re: Swingarm questions
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2007, 02:09:09 PM »


I don't like the mount to the trans pan, that connection needs to be rigid and this design looks like a simple plate using long bolts and spacers which in my mind is subject to flexing. 


Pete, it is a nice looking part.  So far as appearances go.  My first impression also, however, was a concern about the long bolts and spacers being the only mount.  I honestly don't have a clue how much force might be exercised against these things.  But I'd not want just the bolts (especially such long bolts) hanging their on there own.  It's too easy to see the whole thing flexing one direction or another; if not actually working bolts in their threads and tearing up a tranny.
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2007, 04:08:02 PM »

Pete, it is a nice looking part.  So far as appearances go.  My first impression also, however, was a concern about the long bolts and spacers being the only mount.  I honestly don't have a clue how much force might be exercised against these things.  But I'd not want just the bolts (especially such long bolts) hanging their on there own.  It's too easy to see the whole thing flexing one direction or another; if not actually working bolts in their threads and tearing up a tranny.

Don I don't like the way it mounts to the trans either. But it is the only one that addresses the need for air to be deflected toward the trans. I am going to call them Monday to see if they have any figures on how much force is put on the trans.
Also want to see if they can build a more rigid mount to the trans like all the other makes have.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2007, 04:16:18 PM »

Brian, welcome back!

I think you hit the nail on the head, bike needs to be aligned regardless.  I have never experienced high speed wobble on my bike or any other kind of wobble for that matter and I ride fast.  Any handling issues I have had were related to aerodynamics (i.e. fairing lowers, crosswinds, etc.), nothing that could be fixed by adding one of these devices.  But, here is my opinion on this particular device:  looks like a Klingon bird of prey flying under your bike!  Looks too complicated and I don't like the mount to the trans pan, that connection needs to be rigid and this design looks like a simple plate using long bolts and spacers which in my mind is subject to flexing.  In my opinion, someone needs to design one that is the trans cover, not bolts over, so air can cool the trans fluid.

There have been a number of site members who have installed these devices and say they work, others don't really know if they do or not but feel better they have them, I don't know one way or another.  I just know I don't have a problem, so I'll save my $$$ for more chrome!

Pete just back from Daytona. Leave on Wednesday for Guatemala. Don't know how long I will be there. Fishing is slow now. They are blaming it on el-nino. It will be at least 1 week but could be 4.

After I put on the new wheels on Bessie, she became uncontrolable at high speeds. Just ask Hubbard or Harry. Makes you feel like your azz is swaying from side to side even at 75 mph. At 125 as I was catchin , well never mind, anyway at 125 it took up all of Interstate 4. This was like being on a great thrill ride at Disney!

Going to check allignment, wheel centers, and wheel ballance before i go to the next stage which will be one of these units.
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