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[scotman623]

If someone buys the complete 131 crate motor to put in their bike they have to return the cases to the stock motor, Even Fuel Moto mentioned this, hence why they canceled their order on the complete motor...They need your stock cases back so there is not 2 motors out there with the same vin... I don’t AGREE with this, but it’s true... If you buy the 131 parts kit you don’t have to return anything to H-D...

[BigLock]

Dealer doing the free kit if you buy a 20 touring bike is Black Jack H-D in Florence SC . Just pay for install

[SDCVO]

think you can buy motor seperately. It was the gm at the dealer that suggested it to me

[Threephase]

Here is the downside to the crate engine for owners of CVO's.

"The engine is available in a choice of two finish treatments to match original motorcycle styling or a custom direction – Black and Chrome or Black and Gloss Black."

No black granite to match the CVO transmission case.

[ltank]

I was curious about the transmission holding up. I realize that it needs a new clutch

[J Meadows]

My Local Dealer  Hells Canyon H-D is offering free 131  upgrade  with new 2020 Harley you just have to pay labor, buy  slippons, Clutch & Tuner, should cost about an extra $4,000 on top of new bike price.
 

[ParadigmGuy]

My Local Dealer  Hells Canyon H-D is offering free 131  upgrade  with new 2020 Harley you just have to pay labor, buy  slippons, Clutch & Tuner, should cost about an extra $4,000 on top of new bike price.

With any 117 or 114? I think that would devalue part of the benefit of a CVO.

[anzac]

Has anyone bought this engine and if so what are your thoughts?


Thanks

[scotman623]

People are just probably starting to buy some, I’m sure they will post their thoughts when finished... I’m guessing we will not hear any reviews for another 2-6 weeks would be my guess...

[johnmowcop]

Hocus Pocus?

My understanding then is this (is it correct):

Seems if you buy this new engine for the $6k+ (excluding fitting and probably much needed clutch upgrade etc), you have to give them your old engine cases back because the engine number on the new engine will be the same as your old engine, so no chance of selling your own engine after buying a new one (you will just have a pile of parts)  to recover part of the price, or, keeping your old engine as spare for when the new one goes wrong.

These people are odd, do not deserve any kind of allegiance.

[BigLew55]

Hocus Pocus?

My understanding then is this (is it correct):

Seems if you buy this new engine for the $6k+ (excluding fitting and probably much needed clutch upgrade etc), you have to give them your old engine cases back because the engine number on the new engine will be the same as your old engine, so no chance of selling your own engine after buying a new one (you will just have a pile of parts)  to recover part of the price, or, keeping your old engine as spare for when the new one goes wrong.

These people are odd, do not deserve any kind of allegiance.

There was an early misunderstanding concerning returning your VIN.  That has since been corrected and folks are ordering these crate engines with no intention of returning their old one for "VIN swapping".

[scottt]

So, what does everyone think of the new 131 inch crate motor for M8 touring frames? Kinda nuts that it's not included in a high dollar CVO in my opinion.

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[CVOStreetglide]

So, what does everyone think of the new 131 inch crate motor for M8 touring frames? Kinda nuts that it's not included in a high dollar CVO in my opinion.

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Maybe 2021.   They need some test mules so the 20 1/2 CVO Road Glide may be it.   

[mark]

So, what does everyone think of the new 131 inch crate motor for M8 touring frames? Kinda nuts that it's not included in a high dollar CVO in my opinion.

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Out of curiosity, what do you think the MSRP would be on a 2021 CVO Limited with a 131...$46k?  The only riders buying HD tourers are baby boomers, and most are retired or very close.  Spending $50k for a motorcycle on a retirement income is going to give many retirees pause.     

[scottt]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the MSRP would be on a 2021 CVO Limited with a 131...$46k?  The only riders buying HD tourers are baby boomers, and most are retired or very close.  Spending $50k for a motorcycle on a retirement income is going to give many retirees pause.   

Ya think? Your absolutely correct! I'm one of them if Harley really wanted to know what is going on, they would talk to riders like myself. I would give them good advice for free. I'm sure others would as well.

Personally, I think Harley needs to actually cut production, greatly increase quality and spend whats needed on R&D to build a high quality touring line that can stand with the worlds best. The stock market would hate my plan, in fact I'd suggest bringing the company back to private ownership if at all possible.

I realize that Harley wants to attract new customers with electric bikes. They also want a piece of the adventure and sport bike markets. I'd recommend investing in your touring line first, like GM did with the Corvette.

Electric bikes like the Livewire have such a limited market. Now that you have it, keep it but progress slowly. The adventure and sport bike markets are very competitive. They are not going to switch brands unless Harley builds a better bike, priced right. Not Harleys current strong suit.

Then again, what do I know

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