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georgw221

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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2020, 10:39:05 PM »

Yes, the cams have very fast ramps. When cam is changed these lifter issues diminish with many grinds.
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How do the SE585 cams compare to the SE255 cams when it comes to lifters?
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2020, 08:58:40 AM »

They will run a little more quiet. They are all share the origin of Comp Cams. Some of their cams out of the Harley proprietary grinds have worked quite well for me including the TC3103

From a little higher level view why are we looking for the smoking gun always? This is a "system" of components. There are a number of parts and geometry cause the 110 and all twin cam valve trains to not be real happy. When I do a set of the heads, use my springs and protrusion settings plus a cam of my choice and pushrods that are not pole vaults they run quiet. Quiet is more than just an annoyance. The noise is a sign of poor geometry due to mismatched components among other things. The 110 would run quiet even with the latest harley lifters if the rest of the items are addressed. The lifters would also have an extended life as well.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2020, 06:46:55 AM »

How does/would the TTS 150 compare to the TC3103...in a 110 application or even a 117?
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2020, 10:33:16 AM »

It makes more power and about the same torque, corrected compression and all other factors the same. The TC3103 is in the same class of cams as the Tman 590
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2020, 05:45:43 AM »

Thanks...So maybe a TC 3102 for more of a torque build?
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2020, 08:30:31 AM »

Exactly but keep eyes on the pipe choice. It is more influence  than those cams compared.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2020, 06:49:01 PM »

I've got almost 30K on my current SE Lifters and need to change them.  I've been looking for a set of S&S lifters and in the past I had no problem finding them.  It's now like pulling teeth to buy a set of lifters for the bike.  S&S now only sells one lifter for Big Twins.  In the past they sold two versions of their premium lifters (with and w/o HL2T).

When you go to their website and search for Lifters, you get 0 returns.  You have to go through the Tappet search to get there.  Additionally, in the past when I looked on their website they had great instruction sheets with their products.  With their "new and improved" Item #: 330-0718 (Precision Tappets), there are no installation instructions.

So I've been to my favorite aftermarket web stores and none of them have S&S lifters for Big Twins (out of stock or they don't carry them), but Amazon has them....  you just have to roll the counterfeit dice and wonder if they will have any instructions with them.  Reviews from Amazon about product quality are also dicey... 

Also, I see that Hylift by Johnson is recommended, but they are not offered on the reputable websites either.  Are there some online vendors that you all would suggest for purchase of S&S or Johnson Hylift lifters for a 2013 stock 110?

Thank you all for your help!
 
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2020, 09:57:25 PM »

I stock either of the lifters you mentioned.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2020, 04:09:50 PM »

HD Performance,

That's a little help, but I don't know what to do with it.

Website, prices etc...?

Thanks!
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2020, 07:00:13 AM »

I stock either of the lifters you mentioned.

Don't mean to hijack your thread!
Don, are the S&S lifters the standard #33-5350?
If so how do we order them?
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2020, 09:53:44 AM »

HD Performance,

That's a little help, but I don't know what to do with it.

Website, prices etc...?

Thanks!


I found these guys who have a modified lifter for a 110 ..... https://www.amsmotomachine.com/index.php/top-harley-parts
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2020, 11:06:50 AM »

Just PM me.
Or Email info@hdstreetperformance.com
S&S has discontinued both the "standards" and "premiums" as far as I know
They replaced them with 330-0718, Precision Tappets
No options for limited travel lifters.

See Here
https://view.publitas.com/ss-cycle/510-0585-s-s-dealer-catalog-late-model-parts-accessories-for-1999-and-later-models/page/92-93

My opinion, the hylift toplines are equal or better and cost ~$50 less.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2020, 11:27:46 AM »

My 07 CUSE has HD B's in the Jim's 131 with 17k. Looking for advise on replacement lifters.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2020, 05:48:45 PM »

S&S or Topline Hylift. Both are good, the Hylift being considerably less $ plus have axle oiling.
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Re: S&S lifter choice?
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2020, 06:45:43 PM »

Just PM me.
Or Email info@hdstreetperformance.com
S&S has discontinued both the "standards" and "premiums" as far as I know
They replaced them with 330-0718, Precision Tappets
No options for limited travel lifters.

See Here
https://view.publitas.com/ss-cycle/510-0585-s-s-dealer-catalog-late-model-parts-accessories-for-1999-and-later-models/page/92-93

My opinion, the hylift toplines are equal or better and cost ~$50 less.

Thanks for the help,

I just went ahead and put in some Feuling Lifters and S&S Quickie Pushrods.  They will get me through the next 25K, and probably before then I'm going to do a different cam that isn't so killer on lifters.
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