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[dayne66]

...and now have a "rattle".
At Idle in neutral.....snap the throttle and it has a big rattle. Snap throttle again from anything above idle and no rattle.

Let it settle down to idle again ....and there it is again...the big rattle.

I have it apart now......the 3/8" 'gap' is only about 5/16" without shims on a 70k km chain.

This compensator only has about 3000 km on it.

Oil was quite black when I drained it before installing the Hayden...only 3000 km.

I have had a hayden years ago on another bike without issue....could it be the fluid (amsoil)?....or the fluid accentuated the compensator's failing again?

[fastfreddy]

i have had same and other issues with the hayden .... went back to stock tensioner. also i have had 100% positive results with amsoil ... 47k on stock compensator and counting

[Cvostu]

Hey Dayne. I had a bad experience with my Hayden tensioner on my 12sg3     caused some serious issues I remember. Luckily I had the repair covered under warranty. I would suggest the stock one if you need to replace. I had no issues after.   Stuart.

[dayne66]

Thanks guys! Back to stock tensioner .....with Amsoil.

[dayne66]

Hey Dayne. I had a bad experience with my Hayden tensioner on my 12sg3     caused some serious issues I remember. Luckily I had the repair covered under warranty. I would suggest the stock one if you need to replace. I had no issues after.   Stuart.

Did the dealer know you had the Hayden installed? My dealer would probably deny the claim! If the "rattle" remains with the stock tensioner and Amsoil......I'll change the fluid back to HD and take it in

[Cvostu]

Yes. He saw that I had it put in there.   I have a great relationship with him so luckily for me he took care of it.  Never again.   👍. Stuart

[dayne66]

Yes. He saw that I had it put in there.   I have a great relationship with him so luckily for me he took care of it.  Never again.   👍. Stuart

Did it cause damage? Or just noise/jerky engagement? Did you ride it at all?

[Cvostu]

I just remember that it messed up the primary side and caused a big problem. It was many years ago. I'd never use one again. Live and learn.  Stuart

[dayne66]

I just remember that it messed up the primary side and caused a big problem. It was many years ago. I'd never use one again. Live and learn.  Stuart

Hayden is out.....it's still on the lift but has the stock tensioner and Amsoil Primary in it......no horrendous rattle can be replicated when snapping the throttle under any condition. Hopefully that's the end of this saga as I'm not looking forward to a dealer encounter.

[fastfreddy]

i know the primary made some scary noises with the hayden, but every thing was good after removing it... i called them and told them about it and they refunded me my money FYI. go give it a test ride and let us know if all is good   

[Cvostu]

I called Hayden several times when I was going through that. They never answered my calls or called me back.  They were awful to deal with. I would warn anyone who asks. Stuart.

[dayne66]

i know the primary made some scary noises with the hayden, but every thing was good after removing it... i called them and told them about it and they refunded me my money FYI. go give it a test ride and let us know if all is good   

I'll hit them up for a refund!!...don't wanna use it in the Wife's bike either if it has potential to cause issues! Going for a test ride in a few minutes.....

[dayne66]

Still has a little rattle when accelerating for about 2-3 seconds . Driving along in any gear at about 22-2600 rpm and roll on the throttle...a bit of a rattle...seems to be from front of primary. Had it before the Hayden and Amsoil....was trying to get rid of it thinking it was the tensioner letting the chain slap a bit......wasn't very tight when i first opened it up. Just took off the inspection plate and used a 'stick'...and the chain seems quite snug now.

I've got ESP!!!

Think there's another new compensator in my future.....hopefully can hold off until fall.

[Cvostu]

I'm thinking compensator. I had mine replaced under warranty on the 16rgu.   Might be that. Mine was a bit noisy too. Stuart.

[dayne66]

I'm thinking compensator. I had mine replaced under warranty on the 16rgu.   Might be that. Mine was a bit noisy too. Stuart.

Yeah...pretty sure it's the compensator ......will be the 4th new one. Original lasted over 50,000km.....then about 10,000...then about 5,000...and this one about 3000kms.

Thought they were supposed to get better as they progress through the alphabet.