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[Billy]

I'm trying to make the ride better on my SERK. I was thinking about installing 440 13 inch shocks on the back. i know that the standard shocks are 12 inch but think  that I would get a better ride. Just not sure if the look of the bike will change that much. i would appreciate any help on the matter. Need to prevent more back problems. Thanks Billy

[mr_magoo]

You may want to disconnect the shocks and jack up the rear end and see how much more drop the swingarm has and if they will even fit.  You may want to look in the traxxion thread they talk about a new set of shocks that are adjustable for compression and rebound.

[Hoist!]

I'm trying to make the ride better on my SERK. I was thinking about installing 440 13 inch shocks on the back. i know that the standard shocks are 12 inch but think  that I would get a better ride. Just not sure if the look of the bike will change that much. i would appreciate any help on the matter. Need to prevent more back problems. Thanks Billy

Billy, I believe standard Road King shocks are 12", and our shocks on the SERK are 11". I'm replacing mine with standard height. I believe you'll be able to go 1" over, meaning 13", if you're tall enough to still be flatfooted. I would not do this unless you're raising the front fork the same amount. 2" up on the shocks, 2" up in the front. I was told not to do the back without doing the front. It will adversly effect the bike's handling. Hoist!

[SPIDERMAN]

I'm trying to make the ride better on my SERK. I was thinking about installing 440 13 inch shocks on the back. i know that the standard shocks are 12 inch but think  that I would get a better ride. Just not sure if the look of the bike will change that much. i would appreciate any help on the matter. Need to prevent more back problems. Thanks Billy

Not only will the "look" change, but the reason for the " look "  the stance ( geometry) of the bike will change lifting the rear of the bike 1" and changing the balance point shifting the weight forward. This increased weight on the front end will cause the bike to dive into corners and wallow around like the fat lady at the circus side show. Unless you plan on putting a 1" spacer into each of your fork tubes to compensate, this is a bad idea.

IMHO

B B

[Billy]

Billy, I believe standard Road King shocks are 12", and our shocks on the SERK are 11". I'm replacing mine with standard height. I believe you'll be able to go 1" over, meaning 13", if you're tall enough to still be flatfooted. I would not do this unless you're raising the front fork the same amount. 2" up on the shocks, 2" up in the front. I was told not to do the back without doing the front. It will adversly effect the bike's handling. Hoist!

I talked to my dealer and they said that the SEEK had 12 inch shocks. i also spoke to progressive and they said the same. i guess I will have to check or measure my self to tell for sure. do you think the 12 inch if standard would help the ride. using 440 's. Thanks Billy

[Hoist!]

I talked to my dealer and they said that the SEEK had 12 inch shocks. i also spoke to progressive and they said the same. i guess I will have to check or measure my self to tell for sure. do you think the 12 inch if standard would help the ride. using 440 's. Thanks Billy

Absolutely Billy, they're very responsive shocks. Traxxion is testing an Italian Sport Bike Shock for our bikes. I believe Chief will be helping them test them on his SEUC. I'm waiting on the results of that before doing anything. If they test well, I'm using them. If not, I'm getting the 440's. Let me know about stock SERK and stock Standard Road King shock heights. I want to go 1" over front and rear on my SERK. Hoist!

[Billy]

Absolutely Billy, they're very responsive shocks. Traxxion is testing an Italian Sport Bike Shock for our bikes. I believe Chief will be helping them test them on his SEUC. I'm waiting on the results of that before doing anything. If they test well, I'm using them. If not, I'm getting the 440's. Let me know about stock SERK and stock Standard Road King shock heights. I want to go 1" over front and rear on my SERK. Hoist!

Thanks Hoist, I will check out the size of the Seek shock. When will the testing of those new shocks be complete. How do you raise the front of the bike one inch? Thanks for the help Billy

[miker]

What difference is between the 412's and the 440's., besides I am sure dollars.  Anyone?  Anyone?  Buehler?
 
Miker

[Chief]

What difference is between the 412's and the 440's., besides I am sure dollars.  Anyone?  Anyone?  Buehler?
 
Miker

The 412 is a standard shock while the 440 has their IAS mechanism which changes the compression based on inertia, or the speed at which it is being compressed. Both are good shocks. The 440's have a bit more engineering in them.

[miker]

Thanks Chief....

Anything has got be better than whatever the "MoCo" thinks they put on the back of these FL's.
I think my old hardtail with a pogo seat rides better.  No inertia dampening though.  I may try a set of 412's.

[Boatman]

Billy-
The SEEGlides also came lowered with the 12" air shocks on the back and also lowered 1" in the front.  Before you buy new shocks, try raising the air pressure in the rears to 30 PSI as the shorter shocks require much more air than the 13" standards.   There are posts regarding air pressure in the SEEG section.

Also, a lot of us has put 12" or 12.5" (me for one 12.5") 440's on the rear and they ride and HANDLE better with the 440's..  The 12.5" 440's raised my bike about 1/8" in the rear.  The MOCO air shocks have a lot to be desired.

[Chief]

Thanks Chief....

Anything has got be better than whatever the "MoCo" thinks they put on the back of these FL's.
I think my old hardtail with a pogo seat rides better.  No inertia dampening though.  I may try a set of 412's.

Miker,

I've been running the 440's for about 30,000 miles, actually took them off of the old bike and put them on the new bike. They are a great shock. I rode the air shocks until there was no damping left, just spring action. Made for some REALLY nasty bridge abuttment hits at speed. Things would jar you like crazy. The 440's solved 95% of those hard bumps.

I will be trying the Bitubos here soon. Hopefully I'll be able to provide some worthwhile comparison between new Bitubos and 30,000+ mile 440's. I don't know if that will be truly fair to the 440's.

[Billy]

Miker,

I've been running the 440's for about 30,000 miles, actually took them off of the old bike and put them on the new bike. They are a great shock. I rode the air shocks until there was no damping left, just spring action. Made for some REALLY nasty bridge abuttment hits at speed. Things would jar you like crazy. The 440's solved 95% of those hard bumps.

I will be trying the Bitubos here soon. Hopefully I'll be able to provide some worthwhile comparison between new Bitubos and 30,000+ mile 440's. I don't know if that will be truly fair to the 440's.

My back can't wait, i went with the 13  inch 440's  Progressive said that they will fit fine and raise the bike 3/4 inch . I will try them and see if the look is still Ok. can always send them back for smaller shocks. bought them at MAW for $408.00 del Thaks for the help. Even though you guys seem to make me spend more money it is always well spent and I seem to get  it right the first time without buying things twice. Thanks Billy

[miker]

Billy, I believe standard Road King shocks are 12", and our shocks on the SERK are 11". I'm replacing mine with standard height. I believe you'll be able to go 1" over, meaning 13", if you're tall enough to still be flatfooted. I would not do this unless you're raising the front fork the same amount. 2" up on the shocks, 2" up in the front. I was told not to do the back without doing the front. It will adversly effect the bike's handling. Hoist!

Hoist, I measured 12", bolt center to center.  Are shocks measured overall length or on center?
Help me before I order!

[Chief]

When will the testing of those new shocks be complete?

Hasn't started yet. Still waiting.