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07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« on: May 22, 2007, 08:17:14 PM »
I've been having this intermittant problem with the idle on my bike. Seems like, after running hard 3-4k rpms for 15 minutes or so, I will come to a stop sign and pull in the clutch and the bike will idle to 0 and die. It starts right up afterwards though. I also had an instance where I let off the throttle to slow down and the rpm's stayed up and I continued to accelerate. I pulled in the clutch and stopped and the RPMs where at 3k for about 15 seconds, then slowly dropped back to 1k.

I called my dealer today to talk with them and they said they had another 07RK in for the same complaint. I haven't heard what they found yet.

Anyone else having this problem?

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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2007, 08:22:45 PM »
Quote from: coyotedata on May 22, 2007, 08:17:14 PM
I've been having this intermittant problem with the idle on my bike. Seems like, after running hard 3-4k rpms for 15 minutes or so, I will come to a stop sign and pull in the clutch and the bike will idle to 0 and die. It starts right up afterwards though. I also had an instance where I let off the throttle to slow down and the rpm's stayed up and I continued to accelerate. I pulled in the clutch and stopped and the RPMs where at 3k for about 15 seconds, then slowly dropped back to 1k.

I called my dealer today to talk with them and they said they had another 07RK in for the same complaint. I haven't heard what they found yet.

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks - Keith

Keith, Unfortunately, I think they all do it. Thanks for starting this! I have a PC and it does it, so does Chief's. Hogbreath has a TMAT and his does it too. Can't be the ECM if it does it with the TMAT. This is a strange one that no one's explained yet. But you're definitely not alone. Hey guru's, what's up with this one? :nixweiss: Hoist! 8)
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2007, 08:24:27 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on May 22, 2007, 08:22:45 PM
Keith, Unfortunately, I think they all do it. Thanks for starting this! I have a PC and it does it, so does Chief's. Hogbreath has a TMAT and his does it too. Can't be the ECM if it does it with the TMAT. This is a strange one that no one's explained yet. But you're definitely not alone. Hey guru's, what's up with this one? :nixweiss: Hoist! 8)

Bad gravity  :nixweiss: ?



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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2007, 08:28:29 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on May 22, 2007, 08:24:27 PM
Bad gravity  :nixweiss: ?



(sorry, I got no freaking idea, just trying to keep my post count up with Howie)

Bad gravity is when you're drunk! ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2007, 08:32:01 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on May 22, 2007, 08:28:29 PM
Bad gravity is when you're drunk! ;) Hoist! 8)

Crap, I thought that was tall floors?

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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2007, 08:35:36 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on May 22, 2007, 08:32:01 PM
Crap, I thought that was tall floors?

(they ain't called hardwood for nothin'!)

That was bad Don! :P Now stop hijacking this thread! We want our crappy idle problem fixed! ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2007, 09:10:47 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on May 22, 2007, 08:35:36 PM
That was bad Don! :P Now stop hijacking this thread! We want our crappy idle problem fixed! ;) Hoist! 8)


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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2007, 09:12:57 PM »
Interesting. I did not have the problem for the first 9k miles. It only showed up after they fixed my oil leak (new cylinders, gaskets). I have a stock bike except for the A/C, Pipes and SERT. The way it acts though, makes me think it's computer related, ECM or sensors. The ECM is controlling the idle speed, right?
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2007, 09:14:58 PM »
Quote from: coyotedata on May 22, 2007, 09:12:57 PM
Interesting. I did not have the problem for the first 9k miles. It only showed up after they fixed my oil leak (new cylinders, gaskets). I have a stock bike except for the A/C, Pipes and SERT. The way it acts though, makes me think it's computer related, ECM or sensors. The ECM is controlling the idle speed, right?

Thicker head gaskets.  So slight change in CR.  But surely that's not enough difference to make the map all meshuga?
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 09:35:24 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on May 22, 2007, 09:10:47 PM

Yes sire.  Anything for the King of Flushing :toilet: .

 ;D ;D ;D Now that was good! ;) Hoist! 8)
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2007, 09:37:29 PM »
Quote from: coyotedata on May 22, 2007, 09:12:57 PM
Interesting. I did not have the problem for the first 9k miles. It only showed up after they fixed my oil leak (new cylinders, gaskets). I have a stock bike except for the A/C, Pipes and SERT. The way it acts though, makes me think it's computer related, ECM or sensors. The ECM is controlling the idle speed, right?

Our's did it before head gaskets are replaced. Maybe mine'll get fixed after the gaskets get replaced! If I don't keep joking about these 110's, ;D I might just get pissed about it then! >:( Hoist! 8)
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2007, 09:43:48 PM »
Hoist,

I hear ya. I really love the bike. I expected some problems with the first year and all. Still, I'm about to head out on a 7k mile trip next month. I would like to not have any issues then!  8)

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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2007, 09:48:57 PM »
Quote from: coyotedata on May 22, 2007, 09:43:48 PM
Hoist,

I hear ya. I really love the bike. I expected some problems with the first year and all. Still, I'm about to head out on a 7k mile trip next month. I would like to not have any issues then!  8)

Keith

Keith, enjoy the trip man! I just got back from a 3200 miler. The things that broke were more nuisance things. It never broke down and got me home. I love the bike and will deal with nuisances. It's an uneasy feeling though, waiting for the big one! Good luck and ride safe! Hoist! 8)
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 01:48:01 PM »
I have ran into the idle problem since I have had the Torque Calibration upgrade.
There is one fix you can try.
Insulate the ignition wires that run under the tank to the plugs.
If you do this correctly, you will get equal spark to both plugs.
You may need to change the H-D 6R12's to Accel Y2418P's (Platinum center with U-grove ground electrode)
These plugs are not easy to find.
Wish you luck. Ride safe.
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Re: 07's Idle Throttle Problem?
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2007, 02:23:10 PM »
I might be wrong about this but don't the fuel injected engines have a TPS, throttle position sensor? I've read somewhere that the TPS, probably a potentiometer of some kind, can have bad spots in it sending bad data or throttle position information to the ECM causing all kinds of problems.....

Just a thought.   :nixweiss:
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