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Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« on: June 13, 2007, 10:12:45 PM »

I have no trust/faith in the service department of the local H-D shop after they damaged my brand new Dyna.  Now I have bike that's even more special to me...  I would like to add the chrome inner primary cover and wanted to see how hard it is to install.

Obviously, it looks like I need to drain the SYN3, remove the footboard, take my outer primary off (more oil everywhere), heel-and-toe shifter, shift linkage, etc... to get the primary off.  I guess I may need some new gaskets, and maybe some gasket sealer?

I don't want to screw it up.  I guess the first step is to get the Service Manual for the Touring models first :)

Overall, really how hard is this and how long should I expect this to take (note: I am a perfectionist).  It's seem pretty intimidating just looking at it...  I am somewhat mechanically savvy and have basic hand tools...

Thanks!
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 10:20:01 PM »

I have no trust/faith in the service department of the local H-D shop after they damaged my brand new Dyna.  Now I have bike that's even more special to me...  I would like to add the chrome inner primary cover and wanted to see how hard it is to install.

Obviously, it looks like I need to drain the SYN3, remove the footboard, take my outer primary off (more oil everywhere), heel-and-toe shifter, shift linkage, etc... to get the primary off.  I guess I may need some new gaskets, and maybe some gasket sealer?

I don't want to screw it up.  I guess the first step is to get the Service Manual for the Touring models first :)

Overall, really how hard is this and how long should I expect this to take (note: I am a perfectionist).  It's seem pretty intimidating just looking at it...  I am somewhat mechanically savvy and have basic hand tools...

Thanks!

Do you know what's inside the primary? It's how the engine is connected to the transmission through the clutch assembly. You have to remove all that. You'll need an impact gun for the compensating sprocket on the engine. Look at a manual. If you understand what's going on in there and can get the tools, it's not too bad. But if it seems too complicated for you, find a friend that knows what's going on to help you. If you don't understand it at all, get it done professionally. But you don't need a dealer for this. A good indy shop can do this easily for you. I don't pick them out of the Yellow Pages though. Get a recommendation for a good shop if you don't have one. Hoist! 8)
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 10:51:33 AM »

If We knew where you lived maybe someone here could help you? Fill out your profile a little  :)
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2007, 11:55:47 AM »

If We knew where you lived maybe someone here could help you? Fill out your profile a little  :)

We do know where he lives:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=14040.0
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2007, 12:19:59 PM »

I am in Louisville, KY :)
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2007, 03:16:04 PM »

I am in Louisville, KY :)

bp...there's a lot of stuff in there to take out...not rocket science, but could be very frustrating without the right tools, like big assed sockets and torque wrenches.  If you'll get the Service Manual, it'll show you what tools you'll need.

Can't think of anyone on the site from the Louisville area, but there may be a couple from Ohio who'll step forward.
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2007, 04:03:12 PM »

Mechanically speaking, this is about a mid level task. HOWEVER, as mentioned by others, it's the tools, or more to the point, THE LACK OF the proper tools that will bust you on this. You need a 1/2" impact with and as TC put it " a couple of big assed sockets " Driving a 1/2" impact with one of those little bitty Sears compressors is a stretch, so if you don't have the the compressor, don't go buy the impact. Harbor Freight sells air tools cheap that hold up well enough under occasional use. They also sell Campbell/Hausfield compressors for very reasonable prices, but by the time you've bought everything you need if you don't already have it, you're a grand in the hole and still waiting to do the work. Bottom line, find someone to do this for you if you don't have the right tools.
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2007, 04:15:46 PM »

Mechanically speaking...by the time you've bought everything you need if you don't already have it, you're a grand in the hole and still waiting to do the work. Bottom line, find someone to do this for you if you don't have the right tools.

My very good friend, just reminded me that I don't have the mechanical experience or the tools to do much of anything of the wrenching variety to my ride, so I found a great guy to take my bike to when wrenching is needed. 

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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2007, 04:38:46 PM »

My very good friend, just reminded me that I don't have the mechanical experience or the tools to do much of anything of the wrenching variety to my ride, so I found a great guy to take my bike to when wrenching is needed. 

 :cherry:

See Honey, I am saving you money again.                    :coolblue:

Promise me if you ever see my wife with me you will not speak to her, offer her advice, discuss anything more serious than your mutual interest in roses.  :P

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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2007, 04:49:23 PM »

I have no trust/faith in the service department of the local H-D shop after they damaged my brand new Dyna.  Now I have bike that's even more special to me...  I would like to add the chrome inner primary cover and wanted to see how hard it is to install.

Obviously, it looks like I need to drain the SYN3, remove the footboard, take my outer primary off (more oil everywhere), heel-and-toe shifter, shift linkage, etc... to get the primary off.  I guess I may need some new gaskets, and maybe some gasket sealer?

I don't want to screw it up.  I guess the first step is to get the Service Manual for the Touring models first :)

Overall, really how hard is this and how long should I expect this to take (note: I am a perfectionist).  It's seem pretty intimidating just looking at it...  I am somewhat mechanically savvy and have basic hand tools...

Thanks!
Try the Fix-my-hog DVD they do a bolt on edition for the HD family.  You can even give them a call and ask if it covers that.
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2007, 05:17:47 PM »

Promise me if you ever see my wife with me you will not speak to her, offer her advice, discuss anything more serious than your mutual interest in roses.  :P
MMMMMM and why isn't your wife coming with you to Nelson?   :nixweiss:

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2007, 05:21:25 PM »

Note: Use an impact gun only if you can't get the nuts off with a breaker bar or big ratchet. The only special tool you'll need is the sprocket locking tool to lock the two sprockets and allow you to remove the nuts. Sonce I didn't have the actual tool, I used a tiece of 1/4" thick wood, cut to length. It worked like a champ. I'll mail it to you if you like.

The job is really a piece of cake if you follow the steps in the service manual. There is nothing funky about it at all, very straightforward.
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 05:25:20 PM »

Note: Use an impact gun only if you can't get the nuts off with a breaker bar or big ratchet. The only special tool you'll need is the sprocket locking tool to lock the two sprockets and allow you to remove the nuts. Sonce I didn't have the actual tool, I used a tiece of 1/4" thick wood, cut to length. It worked like a champ. I'll mail it to you if you like.

The job is really a piece of cake if you follow the steps in the service manual. There is nothing funky about it at all, very straightforward.
Chief, anything special with removing the clutch basket since we have the hydraulic clutch.  Assume must bleed clutch down but anything else?
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 05:35:42 PM »

Chief, anything special with removing the clutch basket since we have the hydraulic clutch.  Assume must bleed clutch down but anything else?
No bleeding, no adjusting, nothing. When you go to reassemble everything, slide the clutch rod in and apply firm but gentle pressure to compress the slave enough so you can get the rod to seat. Very similar to compressing brake pistons when installing new pads.

P.S. I haven't seen anything from you since getting the forks done. Are you pleased?
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Re: Chrome Inner Primary Cover
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 06:40:15 PM »

MMMMMM and why isn't your wife coming with you to Nelson?   :nixweiss:

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She changes jobs more often than you plan on changing underwear between your home and Nelson; as such, she has no time off till late September.
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