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« Reply #135 on: July 16, 2007, 09:48:09 PM »
Quote from: TCinVA on July 16, 2007, 07:15:17 PM
Howie,
Haven't been able to catch up with the forum until the last couple of days - what a piece of work NYCHD sounds  like.  Really a PIA.  Hope all works out with the new dealer. 
Tony

Thanks Tony. So far I'm liking what's happening. They are very responsive, listen to me, and are doing what I ask them to. They have their best engine guy on it. I feel pretty good about it so far.

Today's update!

GOOD NEWS!!! .0025!!!!! :jalapeno: :jalapeno: :jalapeno:

He was going to start on Wed, when I can be there, but got started today. First thing he did was pull the cam chest and measure pinion runout. Then he called to tell me he got started early and I have nothing to worry about (for now ::) ). He also knows I wanted to see it, and maybe take some pics. So he's leaving everything setup for me to see first thing Wed morning (he's off Tues). This was at about 4:30. He was going to start takiing things off and start removing the Top End. I'm meeting him on Wed morning and going thru everything with him. He's really into this build and I can't ask for more, especially from a dealer. It's just the beginning, but I have every reason to be optimistic so far! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2007, 10:29:40 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on July 16, 2007, 09:48:09 PM
Thanks Tony. So far I'm liking what's happening. They are very responsive, listen to me, and are doing what I ask them to. They have their best engine guy on it. I feel pretty good about it so far.

Today's update!

GOOD NEWS!!! .0025!!!!! :jalapeno: :jalapeno: :jalapeno:

He was going to start on Wed, when I can be there, but got started today. First thing he did was pull the cam chest and measure pinion runout. Then he called to tell me he got started early and I have nothing to worry about (for now ::) ). He also knows I wanted to see it, and maybe take some pics. So he's leaving everything setup for me to see first thing Wed morning (he's off Tues). This was at about 4:30. He was going to start takiing things off and start removing the Top End. I'm meeting him on Wed morning and going thru everything with him. He's really into this build and I can't ask for more, especially from a dealer. It's just the beginning, but I have every reason to be optimistic so far! :2vrolijk_21:

Hoist! 8)

Great news to begin with, Howie.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #137 on: July 17, 2007, 07:39:13 AM »
Whew! 

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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #138 on: July 18, 2007, 11:13:45 AM »
I left at 9 to go see my bike. We are in the middle of a total deluge right now. Took me 45 minutes to circle the neighborhood, trying to find a way onto the highway to get over the bridge. All the main highways are closed. All the entrance ramps are blocked off. We rarely get rain like this. It figure it's on the day I was supposed to confirm my runout. The tech can't get in either though. He has to cross the same bridge.

The tech just arrived and called. When he loosened the rear head bolts oil started pouring out of the base. Bad rear cylinder. Man, Hoist ain't as dumb as he looks! He's using the spare set I brought with me and will order the replacement pistons and cylinders under w.....ty! I'll return them when they arrive, but my job proceeds without a hiccup. New pistons and cylinders, front and rear. Everything else is looking OK. I'm going to attempt to get up there again. I'll catch you guys later! ;)

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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #139 on: July 18, 2007, 02:51:34 PM »
Today's update.

Just got back from meeting with the Engine Guru Tech at the dealer, who's doing my motor. First I have to say this place has been fantastic so far! They let me go back and talk and hang out with the Tech as if I work there. We went over my crank runout and I took pics of that. http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=14831.msg240202#msg240202 Then he showed me how F'd up the head gaskets were. Both cylinders leak oil thru the gasket layers, and into the combustion chamber. Essentially I was burning oil. And the rear cylinder was warped and oil poured out when he released the head bolts! :nixweiss: Time to order new pistons and cylinders. Oh , but Hoist went and bought them himself so he'd have all the parts when the job started! ;) Now they'll order new pistons and cylinders and give them to me so I can return them for credit! ::) A little forward thinking and planning was all that was required here!

Cam chest is dissembled and is being put back together with a new Feuling Camplate and relief spring, Feuling Oil Pump and Feuling Hardware to reassemble everything with. New cams and all new bearings too. New pistons and cylinders, a little head tweaking, .030 Cometic Head Gaskets, SE Roller Rockers, SE Forged Rocker Supports, S&S pushrods and PR Covers and Performance Lifters will be used. Rocker Boxes needed clearancing, as I heard them "plinking". We saw where they were hitting. They need to be clearanced for the Roller Rockers anyway. The Doherty MystFree breathers will also be used as well as drilling a larger drain hole. A larger HPI Throttle Body with new 4.89 injectors will be utilized.

He does not recommend the use of the SE High Tensile Cylinder Studs and gave them back to me. Be very careful if you use these, as the have no shoulder on them, and could damage your cases.

All in all, this Dealer's Service Dept, and this Tech in particular, has got their chit together. This guy is psyched about doing my Hot Rod Top End, and is going out of his way to take his time, and do everything properly. He is not rushing this build out the door. It should be ready sometime on Fri. I left there feeling really good about this build.

By the time I'm done with this bike by August, I think it will be an '07A SERK3! :D

Well kids, that's it for today's lesson. Stay tuned for futher developments and breaking news! ;D

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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #140 on: July 18, 2007, 03:51:47 PM »
Allright Howie sounds good man. Can't wait to hear how she runs on Friday Bro, I'll keep tuned. Later,Q
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« Reply #141 on: July 18, 2007, 03:56:21 PM »
Quote from: BigDaddy1569 on July 18, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
Allright Howie sounds good man. Can't wait to hear how she runs on Friday Bro, I'll keep tuned. Later,Q

We won't quite know on Fri how it runs. I'm only having them heat cycle the engine a couple of times to seat the rings. My tuner's picking it up and bringing it up to his shop. He'll create a low RPM custom map for me to get some break-in miles on, before doing the complete WOT tune. I'm doing this 100% the right way, not HD's way. This will be the motor Harley wished they built! ;) Hoist! 8)
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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #142 on: July 18, 2007, 04:03:45 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on July 18, 2007, 03:56:21 PM
We won't quite know on Fri how it runs. I'm only having them heat cycle the engine a couple of times to seat the rings. My tuner's picking it up and bringing it up to his shop. He'll create a low RPM custom map for me to get some break-in miles on, before doing the complete WOT tune. I'm doing this 100% the right way, not HD's way. This will be the motor Harley wished they built! ;) Hoist! 8)
Thats right you told me you were possibly going to trailer it to the dyno,my bad. I'm a little burnt sometimes.  Later,Q
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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #143 on: July 18, 2007, 04:05:39 PM »
You smart man, Hoist. Great call on the cylinders and pistons. The average man would be bitching at this point, waiting for the replacements to arrive. BTW, you want to be my project manager for the SoKool SERK?
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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #144 on: July 18, 2007, 05:22:22 PM »
SoKool,

I can't wait to see Howie's response to your offer.

Sure hope you have DEEP POCKETS and a SPA to send the misses to.   Howie neglected to tell you how much SPA time Binx has rung up on this deal hehe.
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« Reply #145 on: July 18, 2007, 05:23:49 PM »
Quote from: Unbalanced on July 18, 2007, 05:22:22 PM
SoKool,

I can't wait to see Howie's response to your offer.

Sure hope you have DEEP POCKETS and a SPA to send the misses to.   Howie neglected to tell you how much SPA time Binx has rung up on this deal hehe.
I don't think I could argue with this one.
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« Reply #146 on: July 18, 2007, 05:28:51 PM »
Quote from: SOKOOLJ on July 18, 2007, 04:05:39 PM
You smart man, Hoist. Great call on the cylinders and pistons. The average man would be bitching at this point, waiting for the replacements to arrive. BTW, you want to be my project manager for the SoKool SERK?

Great idea guys! :bulb: I be the PM and my fee will be your wife's and Binx's Spa tabs! ::) Hoist! 8)

Quote from: Unbalanced on July 18, 2007, 05:22:22 PM
SoKool,

I can't wait to see Howie's response to your offer.

Sure hope you have DEEP POCKETS and a SPA to send the misses to.   Howie neglected to tell you how much SPA time Binx has rung up on this deal hehe.

Harry, you starting trouble again? :P

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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2007, 05:34:58 PM »
Howie,

Start trouble me ???  never !  Ok so maybe I was stirring a little bit, but it was for Binx ya gotta know that.   I feel while the ride might be safer, smoother and faster that she really has been left out on this one and that you need to step up and take care of her heeh.   
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Re: Dealer Can't Handle Hoist's Abuse Either!
« Reply #148 on: July 18, 2007, 05:37:11 PM »
Hey,
 Whatever works man.
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« Reply #149 on: July 18, 2007, 07:14:01 PM »
Good luck, Howie! Ending up with a sweet-running bike will make you forget all this mess. :)
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