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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #315 on: July 23, 2005, 12:06:20 PM »

So it's the Fatboy and V-Rod as everyone expected and an Ultra.  Not a bad looking Ultra either.

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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #316 on: July 23, 2005, 12:08:51 PM »

Ok, it's known now.  That makes it time for the deconstruction to begin.  

At least in the picture it looks like a nice looking bike.  But it's also, in a way, a way for them to wimp out a bit.  Think about, they're just building the same bike they've been building for two years with just a few more doo-dads thrown on.  So it's not really that big of a deal so far as "new-ness" is concerned.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #317 on: July 23, 2005, 12:27:33 PM »

Just read further.  It's even still a 103 and a 5 speed.  Other "stock" bikes get the 6 speed and the CVO "it's got it all, the end all, be all, big whooopen machine" still gets the old standard 5 speed.  It's a nice looking bike, but I'm less and less impressed with any sense of "new" or "improved" or "change" the more I read.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #318 on: July 23, 2005, 12:30:07 PM »

only the dynas are getting 6ers.

dont really like the leather tour pack
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #319 on: July 23, 2005, 12:32:33 PM »

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dont really like the leather tour pack


Naitram, I agree about the tour pack
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #320 on: July 23, 2005, 12:35:31 PM »

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Naitram, I agree about the tour pack


Me three.  Have done those smaller leather tour paks on the Road King Classics for a lot of miles.  They do get marked up some and the lids aren't as strong.  Even more than that, however, on this new SE Ultra it's just funny looking.  Doesn't continue the lines of the bike and sort of truncates the theme of the paint job from front to back.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #321 on: July 23, 2005, 12:49:13 PM »

very disapointed. [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]
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« Reply #322 on: July 23, 2005, 12:54:12 PM »

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very disapointed. [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]




DJW, I understand!
But I also feel that the value of yours and mine have just increased! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #323 on: July 23, 2005, 01:01:08 PM »

I too am very dissapointed.  Very typical of the motor company.  Why give the touring models a 6 speed with overdrive when you can have them pay extra for them.  Instead put it on the dynas too boost sagging sales due to the redesign of the sportsters.  But instead of putting a true 6 speed which could be usefull to a dyna  put a touring 6 speed with overdrive.  

Aside from their radios being elevated to the 21st century (also optional) no real innovations.  Style over substance and even the style in some instances are questionable.

Do not see a compelling reason to buy a 2006.  To borrow a quote from a loyal Cubs fan, wait til next year.

   
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #324 on: July 23, 2005, 01:05:58 PM »

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But I also feel that the value of yours and mine have just increased! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]



You really think so Chip?  I really don't.  All they've done with the 06 (and what will be the 07) release is to increase the population of bikes that will be perceived to be the same as ours.  They'll just all get lumped together.  Even worse is that ours will be perceived to be the ugly step children just beause they're not "newer" and (legitimately) not just because they don't have the more modern communications and radio gear but because (at least so far) that gear can't even be added.  We'll always be a step behind.  

I don't see how we got helped at all.  The bikes are suddenly far less unique as the platform has simply been continued and our bikes can now be seen as being less "modern" to boot.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #325 on: July 23, 2005, 01:22:22 PM »

I guess I have to agree with Chip.  You take a look at that Ultra and then you take a look at our bikes and ask yourself which one you'd rather have.  I'm sorry, but that tour pak leaves A LOT to be desired, as does the paint scheme, IMHO.  I honestly believe ours will continue to stand out in a crowd much more so than the new Ultra.

As far as the electronics goes, it would seem that that unit will be retro-fit-able from the looks of it (not to mention, I'm sure H-D would love to sell a few at a their typically greedy prices for catalog items).

So, what are we out?  Heated seat?  We can do.  Heated grips?  We can do.  Harman Kardon audio?  We can probably eventually do.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #326 on: July 23, 2005, 01:28:23 PM »

Quote from 103T
"So, what are we out?
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #327 on: July 23, 2005, 01:32:38 PM »

Hey what can you expect for 31,995.  Now we have to pick a color.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #328 on: July 23, 2005, 01:43:28 PM »

I don't Brian.  My thought is that the 04/05 are now just part of a much larger pack.  They'll kind of get bundled together as they're all just SE Glides of some sort or another.  Visually I agree that ours still stand (especially the red ones).  But a lot of new shoppers (i.e., the guys who set the market value) will be more inclined to look past our platforms to the newer ones just because of the accessory options.  Gotta remember, guys or gals buying a $30k + SE Glide or Ultra are spending discretionary money.  For folks doing that more bells and whistles are just better; period.

If retrofits become available for the audio kits we'll be better off.  But the radios do come from entirely different manufacturers so it's not a sure bet that will happen.  Don't get me wrong, suddenly being ugly red headed step children or not I still love this red bike.  Have no desire to go immediately trading or anything like that.  In fact have already been out in the garage talking to it just to let it now that I still loved it even if HD did not.  So I'm sure it's feeling much more secure right now.  But for purposes of a market setting valuation discussion consider the following:

1) An 06 or 07 model with reasonably good looks and, generally speaking, all the bells and whistles that existed on 04 and 05 models along with a few modern conveniences that, at least so far, can't exist on the 04 and 05 models.

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2) An 04 or 05 model with reasonably good looks, more time on its clock, and certain conveniences that are just unavailable for it compared to newer models.  

Those things being so there's no way the values of our bikes have just gone up.  The only thing that might help anyone looking to sell an SEEG in the short term will be the normal hype associated with new year model releases and the increased interest that goes along with IF that interest and it's concomitant demand is met by unavailable product.  Short of not being able to buy something they want, however, there's little here that I see that drives up the value of a comparable but older and slightly less equipped model.

Don't get me wrong, that is not a complaint.  I didn't buy the silly bike for any hope of stellar resale.  I bought it because I liked it and wanted to ride it.  Absolutely nothing more.  But I think we're pacifying ourselves a bit if we look at the new models as something that will somehow support or even increase the values of the models we've been sitting for a year or two already.
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Re: Which SE bikes for 2006?
« Reply #329 on: July 23, 2005, 01:55:11 PM »

Does sound like a good stereo 160 watts with XM and MP3 CD's.  Wonder which color will be first.  See something else to guess about already.
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