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[Unbalanced]

Blowncobra,

Dougie at Carl's doesnt tune the Race Tuner only Power Commander and the last I was there they had no interest in doing the SERT. 

While he can do a good job on the PC, I will stay with the SERT.   I have had 2 PC's go bad and no interest in giving them another dime.   

[BalDeagle]

Blowncobra,

Dougie at Carl's doesnt tune the Race Tuner only Power Commander and the last I was there they had no interest in doing the SERT. 

While he can do a good job on the PC, I will stay with the SERT.   I have had 2 PC's go bad and no interest in giving them another dime.   

What happened to them ??

Nige

[grc]

GRC,

Today you can get around the 14.7 somewhat you can limit it with the SERT in closed loop bias tables.

If you set them to a max value you can get them down in the areas you wish to work with to approx 14-14.2 to 1.

That's great Harry.  I didn't realize the SERT would let you get down to 14:1, which isn't a bad number for cruise.

Jerry

[Steve_G]

I have a new  anniversary USE3 on order that's supposed to be here around the first of August.  I already traded off my '06 melon.  I plan to keep the bike stock and was wondering if I could just get a "download" to get it to run cooler/richer.  (I had a race tuner with the old bike, with pipes and a/c kit.)  Does anyone know if they still do the "downloads"?  (-they used to cost about $150).  I guess I could do another Doherty Power Pacc to open the intake, but the pipes are gonna stay stock.  I would hope that I don't need to purchase another race tuner just to get the right AFR to keep a stock bike from burning up.  -Steve

[miker]

I have a new  anniversary USE3 on order that's supposed to be here around the first of August.  I already traded off my '06 melon.  I plan to keep the bike stock and was wondering if I could just get a "download" to get it to run cooler/richer.  (I had a race tuner with the old bike, with pipes and a/c kit.)  Does anyone know if they still do the "downloads"?  (-they used to cost about $150).  I guess I could do another Doherty Power Pacc to open the intake, but the pipes are gonna stay stock.  I would hope that I don't need to purchase another race tuner just to get the right AFR to keep a stock bike from burning up.  -Steve

Steve, I picked up my 07 serk 8.06 with slip-on's SE ac and the "download"...  It really didn't run too well(not bad just not well), had a recall for a "torque smoothing" downloadwith no seat of pants difference to me.  So in went the sert with a new rinehart 2-1 (to aid in exhaust scavenging) and a dyno tune to get the afr downto the low 14's... The bike runs a lot better and metal temps measured at the rear cylinder near the spark plug via IR detector have not exceed 380 F, I have no idea of oil temp, I haven't put the lcd dipstick in (does anyone have an oil to metal temp correlation yet?)...I have around 2500 hard ridden miles (highway to city, stop and go) and no problems yet...I think fattening them up prior to break-in regardless of what you choose in pipes, ac and tuning is key to keeping the cylinder walls cleaner during break-in.  Like anyone else it is JMHO....Best of luck with whatever you decide.

Miker

[Seegarsmkr]

Steve,
Check out vtwin.com there was a very informative article on the SERT replete with all of the newest downloads.  I don't have my computer as it is packed up now, am using my laptop and don't have the same things saved.  I am sure someone can help you with out you shelling out the buck and a half.  If you still have the SERT from your other bike it won't work with a new bike once it has been programed with the ECM.  If you want a custom MAP it may cost you but for the canned ones they shouldn't cost a red cent...Hey Howie where does that saying come from...RED CENT?!!

Seegarz

[Unbalanced]

Harley is not releasing downloads for the CVO's so they say just like they said in 07, There is supposed to be a race tuner for the 08 models, but until they are released who knows what you will or wont be able to do with them.   The 07 download was just a reflash to help bikes that had heat / lean issues / smoothing.    If your going to want to change your download you will have to buy X product SERT / PowerCommander / Thundermax / Daytona Twin Tec etc.   From there you will have to either tweak it yourself or pay for a tune.   i expect you will see the same lean conditions we saw in 07 on the 08's, but until we know for sure its a crap shoot and speculation.  Attached you will see the lastest version of the SERT oem calibration file and what maps are included with version 4.62


BlownCobra,

Not sure what happened to them specifically.   The first one that died was under warranty and replaced and I have the replacement still at the house and the other one was out of warranty.   One died on a trip, luckily the bike had a stage1 download in it and I could get back home.   The 2nd one the bike would not start and after removing it the bike fired right up.   I ended up buying a SERT and have been using one ever since.

[kojak]

Blowncobra,

Dougie at Carl's doesnt tune the Race Tuner only Power Commander and the last I was there they had no interest in doing the SERT. 

While he can do a good job on the PC, I will stay with the SERT.   I have had 2 PC's go bad and no interest in giving them another dime.   

Many dyno shops prefer the PC because they can tune one in about 40 minutes and make good money. A SERT takes more training and typically takes 4 to 6 hours to do an extensive tune.

[Steve_G]

I like the idea of the sert better than other choices bacause there are no additional parts on the bike.  I can't believe there isn't an easy sert program for those who just want their bikes to run properly.  It's funny how the EPA forces the mfg. to meet guidelines, but for an extra few hundred bucks, you can get around it- and accomplish this with the same EPA approved manufacturer.  -Just goes to prove "life is like a sh** sandwich.  The more money you have, the less sh** you have to eat".  Maybe one answer would be to get  exhaust sensors that are giving readings that would allow the engine to run cooler.  -I don't want to polute the atmosphere, I just want my bike to run properly and for the engine to last.  -Steve

[Fired00d]

I like the idea of the sert better than other choices bacause there are no additional parts on the bike.  I can't believe there isn't an easy sert program for those who just want their bikes to run properly.  It's funny how the EPA forces the mfg. to meet guidelines, but for an extra few hundred bucks, you can get around it- and accomplish this with the same EPA approved manufacturer.   -Just goes to prove "life is like a sh** sandwich.  The more money you have, the less sh** you have to eat".  Maybe one answer would be to get  exhaust sensors that are giving readings that would allow the engine to run cooler.  -I don't want to polute the atmosphere, I just want my bike to run properly and for the engine to last.  -Steve

I believe the reason they can get around the EPA is because they distribute it as "For race application only". Even though everyone knows that it is used in other applications with them adding that disclaimer keeps "Big Brother" off their back.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[skippy]

My 110 springer is still at 230 to 255 degrees with sert V&H pro pipe K&N open air filter  it don't matter outside air temps 2weeks ago in 95 degree temps or this past sat in 83 temps it still runs hot I think  will drop syn3 and go with amsoil  asap...

[bc]

I believe the reason they can get around the EPA is because they distribute it as "For race application only". Even though everyone knows that it is used in other applications with them adding that disclaimer keeps "Big Brother" off their back.

The thing that gets me is that the EPA makes a big deal of emissions on a motor that already gets 40mpg, plus or minus.  Plus, my mileage got BETTER after tuning.

bc

[Steve_G]

I am worried about excessive heat on my soon to be delivered USE3.  I have been checking other web sites, and found an article that I thought was very interesting.  Check this out: http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/hd2007HD_heat_00.htm

[9 1/2 Beers]

i can't open this

[blowncobra]

Me neither, glad i am not the only computer challenged one around here?