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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2005, 01:49:55 PM »

Woohwhee, just realized I was looking so intently at that nice looking radio install and setup that never even noticed those are some nasty mirrors  [smiley=laugh.gif]
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2005, 11:57:52 PM »

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O'fender what all is required to go your route with the stereo,  are you using rear speakers as well.  And what would be wrong with the black face plate.  About how much did it run?


About $375, (if you are serious about going this way I took a lot of pictures during install and can save you all the pains I went through) no I am not using the rear outputs (speakers, I just taped the wires off inside). the black face plate was around $100 I was told by a sales rep at fosgate however I was turned off by the fact that it wasn't "marine grade"(I tried to special order the radio in black and fosgate declined saying that they get packaged in tiawan and no special orders were available)
It cost me substanually more because I bought the kit from Dragonfly and it was not worth it (attached is a photo of what I got). I can offer some help so you will avoid the issues I ran into. Mainly getting the infrared working, because I took a week doing a really meticulious install, everything worked fine in the garage but as soon as I took it out, no workie. eventually I got the hand controls working and found out the kenwood receiver skipped terribly (no anti-skip feature) when I called the guy who sold it to me he said "if I knew the application I would not of recommended the kenwood I would recommend the fosgate. I have only ridden about 400 mile since installing, so far I am very happy
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2005, 01:13:38 AM »

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Woohwhee, just realized I was looking so intently at that nice looking radio install and setup that never even noticed those are some nasty mirrors  [smiley=laugh.gif]



As for the mirrors here in Jersey they pour salt all over the roads in the winter so everytime I take a ride I have to hose it off when I get home and that is the results of that hosing!!! [smiley=1syellow1.gif]

also this is an install photo and you see the tune trapper antenna (this is the kenwood receiver but the installation was identical)  [smiley=worthless.gif]
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2005, 08:44:56 AM »

Am thinking of persuing this any help would be appreciated.  Am not a electronics wiz was it hard.
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2005, 10:59:49 AM »

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Am thinking of persuing this any help would be appreciated.  Am not a electronics wiz was it hard.


Can you operate a soldiering iron? do you know how to use heat shrink tubing? are you capable of removing your fairing? can you read a wire diagram? if you answered "YES" to these questions you probably did too many drugs in the 70's (ha-ha just kiddin').
seriously if you decide to go this route i will give you my cell number and all the help I can, it's just a time consuming job, figure two eight hour days to do it right. magoo I am assuming with the miles you do you are mechanically inclined, I took about 35 photos of the installation that I will put together with details if you decide to take the plunge!!!
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2005, 10:31:07 AM »

Yeah do all my own work was wondering what all pieces do I need to put the unit together.  Am mainly interested in getting the mp3 player and rear speakers don't care about sat radio.  Would welcome the technical help.  Would probaly go with the black face plate,  you have a weather cover over it?
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2005, 12:10:45 PM »

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Yeah do all my own work was wondering what all pieces do I need to put the unit together.  Am mainly interested in getting the mp3 player and rear speakers don't care about sat radio.  Would welcome the technical help.  Would probaly go with the black face plate,  you have a weather cover over it?


OK then give me until Monday to put a list together because I want to be as accurate as possible. To start though obviously you can go ahead and order a receiver and the PAC SW1-X (for future reference I will refer to it as the PAC), the Pac instructions will include most of the basic details for wiring the hand controls. Now I went to a local car audio store and purchased the black wrinkle finsh plexiglass (they sold me a 12"x 12" piece for $5) your gonna need some 1/2" thick metal (2-1/2" to 3" wide preferable aluminum) to fill in along side the radio. you will need (4) #10 x 1" wood screws to attached the metal to the each side of the radio. That should at least get you started.
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2005, 08:08:27 AM »

Thanks for the help with this it is sometime better to follow than be a trailblazer.
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2005, 03:35:39 PM »

Just had a completely (and pleasantly) surprising phone call from Biketronics.  A call of the type that is rare anymore and completely worth passing along here.

I'd started this thread letting others with the SEEGs know that the Biketronics RetroRadio package wouldn't work with our bikes.  Further bemoaned the fact that the Biketronics rep I spoke with, who knew I was buying a radio and other parts and who know the bike was an SEEG, repeatedly didn't let me know their unit wouldn't work until after I'd purchased other parts.  Then I had a Sony radio and XM hardware that couldn't be used for lack of a usable BikeTronics kit and couldn't be returned from whence it came.

As one might expect this bugged me a little.  The lady on the phone from Biketronics didn't help when she suggested that I do their R&D and, basically, see what had to be done to make it work.  

At that time I very pointedly chose not to respond.  Didn't want to say anything untoward to the lady regardless of the circumstances.  Waited a couple of weeks then dashed off a letter explaining the cirucmstances, detailing the problems, noting that because of the way they'd handled it I'd bought other pieces I couldn't return and now had no use for, and finished by asking if they had an idea when or if their unit might be revised to work with the SEEGs.  

After all, I was still very interested in the concept of the product.  Would have preferred to be able to use it.

So got a phone call a few minutes ago from Mike at BikeTronics.  Very direct.  Very competent.  Very easy.  Quickly explained that revising product engineering for the limited production bikes probably wasn't a profitable proposition (understandable).

Then when I was expecting an apology saying something like "I'm sorry we caused you this problem and I really wish it hadn't happened" what he said was "and we need to make this right so let me know how much you spent on the stuff you couldn't send back and we'll buy it from you."

That was a completely unexpected response.  Because of the problem I'd not even had the opportunity to yet become their paying customer.  But he's still buying the product that was purchased elsewhere to correct for the error.

We often speak of customer service and pine for some half-remembered and half-made-up "good old days" when people were more direct and life in general was more civil.  This converstion with BikeTronics today only serves to remind that those willing to do everything necessary to treat customers fairly and respectfully and directly do still exist.

To Mike and his company, thanks.  I appreciate it.  Completely.  I've not yet been your customer; but I will be when the opportunity presents itself again.

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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2005, 03:39:35 PM »

Here, Here:

This was a very well written and thought out sharing of an example of what I may deem "Exemplary Service."  May more of us find more of this. Thanks for sharing.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2005, 08:20:13 PM »

I have spoken with Mike at Biketronics on several occasions, and with his engineering background, found he was a good and willing "sounding board" when I was developing Hogtunes.

Based on my discussions with Mike, I am pleased, but not surprised he is willing to do the right thing-----

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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2005, 08:23:05 PM »

To bad we can't do business with him he sounds like a good man to deal with,  glad to hear it worked out.
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2005, 08:41:02 PM »

While not a completely happy ending; it's gratifying to hear good stories about good people doing good things. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2005, 10:54:21 PM »

Now that is customer service!!!!!!!! maybe the MOCO could learn a thing ot two? Reminds me of a long time ago when companies wanted to earn and keep their customers business.

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Re: BikeTronics--Problems with RetroRadio
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2005, 11:28:34 PM »

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Now that is customer service!!!!!!!! maybe the MOCO could learn a thing ot two?


Wish I could say that I'd not had exactly that same thought.  The Motor Company does, too often, seem to suffer by comparison though.
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