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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2007, 09:24:38 AM »

My 07 Pumkins in getting her oil ring and head gasket done as well.

I am faced with the fact that we here in Australia miss out on so many of the features you guys have in the States makes me envious.
My bike went in 3 weeks ago. Originally the correct part was ordered but the incorrect part was supplied.. She sits on the Hoist with the heart ripped out of her... I really can't understand how it is that a company with a great reputation can make such HUGE mistakes in design.. I thought the 110s were supposed to be the “cream of the crop” when it came to Harley?.. or should it be more like curdled milk.

I requested a new motor but HD Sydney were non responsive... as usual.

Anyways our sage too continues....

I enquired about extended warranty.. none available in Australia... that shows great faith in their product.

Another factor that concerns me is the long term resale value of these bikes.




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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2007, 10:08:17 AM »

Awesome news on the new engine, keep us posted. Does the primary sound quieter also?
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2007, 11:22:59 AM »

As you know from reading my previous posts regarding my 110 motor, I received work orders on all work except the replacement motor sent from the factory stamped with my VIN. At this point in time I believe the 110 is still a work in progress. I have the 2007 FLHRSE3 Parts Catalog and Service Manual Supplement and I am registered to receive updates / ammendments for both the Parts Catalog and Service Manual, to date I have not received a single update.

Are you waiting for a new motor, if so, did you receive your it?
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2007, 01:29:42 PM »

New engine being installed now. I'll report back when I've got a few miles on her. I'm stoked to say the least. Dealer went to bat for me and settled only for a new motor this time around. Hopefully, it's a bit better engineered than the first one. I did have a very early date on the other motor. It was built in June 06.
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #49 on: September 21, 2007, 01:32:31 PM »

good luck,  my second motor was like night and day :drink:
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2007, 05:18:26 PM »

Motor installed.  All broke In (not Broken).  No noticable differences, except that it is running hotter.  Averaging 245 instead of 230.  Maybe it is still tight from being new.

I do have an issue with the neutral switch.

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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2007, 08:55:25 PM »

Three days, three rides, three hundred miles.  Ambient temperature 65-75 degrees.  All types of riding and temperature of the new motor is constant 245 degrees.  Hotter than original motor. 
Do you think temperature will drop after break in period?

Also, pulled the new plugs and there were small pieces of something on the ground electode that came off when touched.  One side of the plug electrode was white, one side tan.

Yes, I should have posted pictures.

I'll do pictures this week.

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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2007, 10:09:23 PM »

Three days, three rides, three hundred miles.  Ambient temperature 65-75 degrees.  All types of riding and temperature of the new motor is constant 245 degrees.  Hotter than original motor. 
Do you think temperature will drop after break in period?

Also, pulled the new plugs and there were small pieces of something on the ground electode that came off when touched.  One side of the plug electrode was white, one side tan.

Yes, I should have posted pictures.

I'll do pictures this week.



My motor (that is apart right now) ran about 210 when riding in the conditions you describe - riding 2 up (oil temp gage thermocouple mounted in the pan).  In 90 plus heat and riding 80 to 85 mpg, I might see 230.  Stop and go traffic would bring 245 - 260, but it came right back down once I cleared traffic.
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2007, 09:12:44 AM »

Well back from Reno the motor has about 2,000 miles on it and has just a slight lifter noise @ 2700 rpm's but it is very faint.  Am very happy with how it runs.  Leave in the morning headed back to Reno so Freedom can work on the bike,  having the yb14 cams installed along with the new exhaust and tuned with a SERT.  That shoukld wake up the motor.  Brad said it would lower the engine temp consideably.  They will have the bike for about a week, it's the 08 test bike.
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2007, 11:54:29 PM »

What is the starting date for "new" versus old motors?  I mean, for example, are August built bikes equipped with new or old?
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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2007, 07:23:38 AM »

What is the starting date for "new" versus old motors?  I mean, for example, are August built bikes equipped with new or old?


Not quite sure of your question.  I had an early 07 which had the silver SE110 badge on the heads.   Early  or late or even 08 have failed.  My replacement motor was a -A version, but that could be because of the updated head gaskets which didn't stop anything from leaking.


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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2007, 08:59:16 AM »

What is the starting date for "new" versus old motors?  I mean, for example, are August built bikes equipped with new or old?

As far as I've heard, there is no "New" motor. There was a new headgasket released earlier this year, April/May timeframe, but I've never seen anything indicating a "New" motor. I don't think it is logical to have a new part number for the entire motor every time an internal component changed. If that were the case, we'd have engine numbers ending with something like -07JSR.

It would be interesting to compare parts manuals between the 07 and 08 models to look at the parts lists.


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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2007, 09:29:20 AM »

Picked up the 08 parts book yesterday,  what part #'s are you interested in?  I looked thru it and didn't see a whole lot of 08 part #'s.
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« Reply #58 on: October 05, 2007, 09:40:09 AM »

Picked up the 08 parts book yesterday,  what part #'s are you interested in?  I looked thru it and didn't see a whole lot of 08 part #'s.

What would be most interesting would be to look at the parts list for the top end. A quick review for either -07* or -08 numbers would go a long way in identifying changes.

A quick test would be the head gaskets. 16801-07A? If they don't have at least that new number, then looking at the parts lists would be useless.

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Re: Update 110" Replacement Motor Installed by Harley Davidson
« Reply #59 on: October 05, 2007, 10:01:01 AM »

What would be most interesting would be to look at the parts list for the top end. A quick review for either -07* or -08 numbers would go a long way in identifying changes.

A quick test would be the head gaskets. 16801-07A? If they don't have at least that new number, then looking at the parts lists would be useless.

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I would be interested to learn if the heads themselves have the same part number...
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