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The bike has 300 miles on it and is still waiting on vpc to come in and some more miles for a final dyno tune.

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Run 1 = Freedom Cam's torque only before they were removed for the 595 install.
Run 16= Cycle Rama 595 torque only.

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Run 1 = Freedom YB14SEC 07 Cam horsepower only
Run 16= Cycle Rama 595  again horsepower only comparison

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The bike has 300 miles on it and is still waiting on vpc to come in and some more miles for a final dyno tune.

A dyno sheet that is accurate has the torque and H/P line cross at 5250 rpm.
Unless photoshop or dyno rigging has been done, 5250 rpm is where lines cross.
Those are the facts!
The dyno sheet above is like Naitrams GPS showing 2300 mph or mine in the truck showing 128, you may read it but don't believe it!

 

[skyhook]

Nice!  Who makes the 595?  What else has been done to the motor?

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Nice!  Who makes the 595?  What else has been done to the motor?

Skyhook

If you want an accurate listing of what a set of 595's will do in a 110 I suggest you ask Rhino for his #'s.

He will give an honest answer!

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[Hoist!]

Skyhook

If you want an accurate listing of what a set of 595's will do in a 110 I suggest you ask Rhino for his #'s.

He will give an honest answer!

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I think Rhino runs 575's. I have the 595's. You can refer to my report in the SERK Section. But my motor just blew up yesterday anyway. So consideration needs to be given to spending good money after bad on these 110's at all!

Hoist!

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I think Rhino runs 575's. I have the 595's. You can refer to my report in the SERK Section. But my moror just blew up yesterday anyway. So consideration needs to be given to spending good money after bad on these 110's at all!

Hoist!

I stand corrected there Mr. Hoist!

But regardless, the above dyno sheet is not accurate and should not be used to judge
the performance of a set of 595's!

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[SCRM-R]

But my moror just blew up yesterday anyway. So consideration needs to be given to spending good money after bad on these 110's at all!

Hoist!

WTF?  What the Hell happened?

[Hoist!]

WTF?  What the Hell happened?

Don't know SCRM-R. I'm heading to the dealer right now to discuss my new engine options. We'll be pulling it apart on Tues to see what happened. Beyond that, I have no clue right now. So far I'm into $300 to get towed home. My bike will be towed to my dealer in the morning. I'm extremely pissed.

A non-HD motor is sounding better and better. A wise man once said, "It's Only $Money$...And I Can Make Some More!!"

Hoist!

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Skyhook,

The only must have change to use this cam is a higher lift spring on your heads.   Wes changed mine out to handle up to 710 lift.

As far as the accuracy, these are the dynosheets that Wes handed me in his shop.   Doubt its authenticity I recommend you call Wes himself.   

The calculations are correct the scaling is wrong,  if you look the horsepower lines don't match up horizontally with the Torque lines going straight across so that is why they are off.   They honestly shouldnt be shown on the same page, but I wanted them together to show everyone, but it casts dispersion because people don't read and look at the dyno sheets for what they are.  Chip take a look at the horsepower side you will see the scale is different than the torque side.

As an example here is some math you verify it for yourself.

As far as the accuracy of the numbers they seem right if you look at the dyno
at 4500 rpm it shows approx 123 torque       123 x 4500 = 553500     553500/5252 = 105 hp 

horsepower = torque x engine speed / 5252

[Rhino]

Skyhook

If you want an accurate listing of what a set of 595's will do in a 110 I suggest you ask Rhino for his #'s.

He will give an honest answer!

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Hey all, I am running the Zippers 575 redshift cam, 575 lift, and the Zippers protapered adj. PR's, and I have then specifically set for .020 lift when cold. Some would disagree, but that is where I like it.  It is a true bolt in chain cam, not requiring any other components to make it work properly. The 595 Cam, a Wes Brown design, Cyclerama, I am not familiar with personally, but I do know that it would require heavier springs, and perhaps rocker clearancing checked, and perhaps rollers also. But that requires a lot more stuff to make work IMO, whereas my 575 was easy and a basic good return on investment.  My numbers are around 104/118, and the 595 does put out a bit more on the numbers.  Now with Howies engine failure, I hope it is something simple, and he gets a good return at 120/120 or whatever, it's up there somewhere, and that would validate those components. Another 595 build is down here near me, and he is getting some very nice numbers, and the motor sounds great. The entire build was done by Wes on that one, and that could make a huge diff.  I was dissapointed to hear Howie had a stealer do the build.  But watch, Howie needed to simply pop the PR clips and wiggle the rods, and if one was really loose, the problem could have been quite minor before he towed home.  Local dealer fix in that instance, IF he shut it down quick enough. Hope that is all it is, I have seen instances of PR's loosening, bad workmanship. I am very curious. HOWIE pop those clips and see!

Now, I am looking to do a bit more, and am looking for answers on 2 things, but so far, the truth escapes most, just opinions, and that is, the benefit for the 58mm TB on the 08's, and the other is, what in the heck are the 110+ heads as shown in catalogs?  I have heard some crazy stuff, but I do want to know about these options, if any.  I have heard larger tb becasue of larger Fuel Tank overlap, restricting airflow, all the way to the other end of just a spring change. 

Rhino

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Now in this one you will see the lines don't match going across due to scale which has skewed the results.    Chip if this still isn't clear enough since you said there is dyno sheet rigging going on, please feel free to call Wes and validate any concern you have about the numbers on the sheet or the statements that you made above.   

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here is a picture pointing out the scale issues on the sheet.

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I've been looking into cams for my 08 build for whenever the SERT,  TMAX/AT, PC get out. I am looking for good low end torque for two up, packed down riding. I was leaning towards the Zipper 575 but this info on the 595's add to my confusion. 

Silver / Black I'm a novice to the dyno info. What do you mean the dyno sheet is not accurate? I'm here to pick up information.

Hoist, sorry to her about Cybil. Hoping the best for you. Hope you got her shut down quick and the prob is minor.  Best of luck! You were the biggest advocate for the 110's I've read on this site. Now I'm thinking   oh crap, now what?
 
Rhino, you numbers are close to what I had in Street Glide w / 110 kit. The more I read on this site, I wonder if I should have stayed with what I had.    She had 5200 miles with out a hiccup. My dealer did the build which was conservative. You are recommend going elsewhere? TIA