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[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

Well we know for a fact that HD use more than place to cast parts so that may one issue. I have looked a a bunch of 110 cylinders and have not seen movement when we have replaced head gaskets.  But I have to wonder if the cylinder liner can slip back down. There is no reason it cannot. I can think back to a all aluminum chevy bow tie block that did this to me as well others. When heated up it could move but many times it would be back in the correct location when you check it.  With the hd liner dropping it should pop the gasket on the spot but then it may be floating and once it moves up and down a few times then you see them out of postion.

[SPIDERMAN]

This reminds me.  I need to check and see if the Axtell jugs I'm getting have made it to Sumax yet...

So much for any effort on my behalf to be the keeper of your secrets 

B B

[Twolanerider]

So much for any effort on my behalf to be the keeper of your secrets 

B B

Oooops, sorry Brian, I didn't realize that unzipping the engine work this winter was a secret .  In some form or another that a winter project was going to happen to hopefully make it all right again had come up before.

FWIW, found out the jugs made it to Sumax today.  Then, after however long it takes Sumax (was really hard to use them again) to do their thing the head and jugs will go back to Axtell for finish machine work.  After that will be diamond cutting; yet again.

Vendor histories being what they are I expect those three to have everything to me by February  .

[naitram]

Oooops, sorry Brian, I didn't realize that unzipping the engine work this winter was a secret .  In some form or another that a winter project was going to happen to hopefully make it all right again had come up before.

FWIW, found out the jugs made it to Sumax today.  Then, after however long it takes Sumax (was really hard to use them again) to do their thing the head and jugs will go back to Axtell for finish machine work.  After that will be diamond cutting; yet again.

Vendor histories being what they are I expect those three to have everything to me by February   .

being optomistic aren't you

[SPIDERMAN]

Oooops, sorry Brian, I didn't realize that unzipping the engine work this winter was a secret .  In some form or another that a winter project was going to happen to hopefully make it all right again had come up before.

FWIW, found out the jugs made it to Sumax today.  Then, after however long it takes Sumax (was really hard to use them again) to do their thing the head and jugs will go back to Axtell for finish machine work.  After that will be diamond cutting; yet again.

Vendor histories being what they are I expect those three to have everything to me by February  .

Pop everything into a vat of liquid nitrogen before you size your pistons and you'll never ever have a problem with those cylinders.

B B

[Twolanerider]

being optomistic aren't you

God I hope not....

[rednectum]

hehehe, better get in line, if yoiu want your stuff by spring.

[Twolanerider]

hehehe, better get in line, if yoiu want your stuff by spring.

Dennis, got to say that given the too common performance history of too many vendors "by spring" is NOT a foregone conclusion.  Three vendors.  Each who say their task will take "a couple weeks."  Allow three months and count on February.  The scary part is that hoping for such a schedule could be optimistic.... 

[Bert760]

I'm a newbie here,but own the 07 ultra with the 110 and my leaking problems didn't start until after the 10k service. Now they can't get it to stop leaking. After 4 trips back to Manatee River Harley in Bradenton,Fl I was just informed this morning that they have ordered new cylinders and they will be in in about a week.
You think HD would just recall the whole lot with the problem and be done with it.

[SE08RK]

That's a tough call. HD will probably replace these cylinders as they are noted by a dealer as defective. Some of the recalls will be left to the intelligence or abilities of the service department to determine that the cylinder needs replaced or the entire engine need to be. I'm not saying that all of the cylinders are defective or that all of the 110's that have these problems are totally defective and should be replaced. Thus far, HD has not been the least bit forthright about what the problem is in the first place. I believe in that light, they will do as little as they can get away with. Total recall; I seriously doubt if HD will do that. But - just my humble opinion!

BC

[SE08RK]

Dennis, got to say that given the too common performance history of too many vendors "by spring" is NOT a foregone conclusion.  Three vendors.  Each who say their task will take "a couple weeks."  Allow three months and count on February.  The scary part is that hoping for such a schedule could be optimistic.... 

These are the reasons that although I do not necessarily want to, I do a lot of my own work. OK, this may not be what some of you want to do or maybe have the ability or desire to do for one reason or the other. But this motorcycle will be serviced by a dealer that knows me, knows what I am capable of and expects future business from me and also knows that I am going to do some of my own modification work (speaking of an HD dealer). The warranty will be regarded in that light as it should legally be - they do not warranty what I did. I am also very close to an independent Harley Davidson shop near by that is near and dear to my heart and very good for my Harley Davidson motorcycles. (spelled out so that HD will take note once again that they are not the only game on the block)

BC

[Hoist!]

That's a tough call. HD will probably replace these cylinders as they are noted by a dealer as defective. Some of the recalls will be left to the intelligence or abilities of the service department to determine that the cylinder needs replaced or the entire engine need to be. I'm not saying that all of the cylinders are defective or that all of the 110's that have these problems are totally defective and should be replaced. Thus far, HD has not been the least bit forthright about what the problem is in the first place. I believe in that light, they will do as little as they can get away with. Total recall; I seriously doubt if HD will do that. But - just my humble opinion!

BC

I think you're right, and you're being pretty damn nice about it too! I feel a little stronger about their attitude about the whole 110 thing!

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

These are the reasons that although I do not necessarily want to, I do a lot of my own work. OK, this may not be what some of you want to do or maybe have the ability or desire to do for one reason or the other. But this motorcycle will be serviced by a dealer that knows me, knows what I am capable of and expects future business from me and also knows that I am going to do some of my own modification work (speaking of an HD dealer). The warranty will be regarded in that light as it should legally be - they do not warranty what I did. I am also very close to an independent Harley Davidson shop near by that is near and dear to my heart and very good for my Harley Davidson motorcycles. (spelled out so that HD will take note once again that they are not the only game on the block)

BC

I blew them off and am doing the entire motor myself (professionally built by Vern)!

Hoist!

[SE08RK]

I think you're right, and you're being pretty damn nice about it too! I feel a little stronger about their attitude about the whole 110 thing!

Hoist!

Well Hoist, I'm hoping that they may still step up. But we will see. I'm most happy to see someone who will take the initiative to correct the problems that HD has given us. Good or bad, I'll finally be forced to do the same and finish their job. Damn shame we must!

BC

[SE08RK]

Well we know for a fact that HD use more than place to cast parts so that may one issue. I have looked a a bunch of 110 cylinders and have not seen movement when we have replaced head gaskets.  But I have to wonder if the cylinder liner can slip back down. There is no reason it cannot. I can think back to a all aluminum chevy bow tie block that did this to me as well others. When heated up it could move but many times it would be back in the correct location when you check it.  With the hd liner dropping it should pop the gasket on the spot but then it may be floating and once it moves up and down a few times then you see them out of postion.

Good info! Thanks.

BC