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[bisounours]

Since the last week end, I've my second leak.
Normal ! I'm not different than the brothers all around the world with CUSE² 07. 

My dealer said that he had no problem with the SE 110ci kit mounted on the stock bikes. 

Do you know what parts are different between the SE 110 kit and our 110 CVO ?

Thanks

Jacques

[SirMichael]

 I am not totally sure on all the differances, but I think some differances are, different cams, pistons, new gaskets, and maybe different heads too!!

 SE has two 110 kits, a stage-1 kit, which is simular to stock, just the mild differances that I mentioned, and the second is a pro stage-2 kit, that has alittle more aggressive components and this kit is the one that has different heads I believe.

                                                                  MIKE

   

[Deacon]

I hate to say it but they use the same Chinneese garbage parts in the SE110 KIT. I have 07 DYNA FXD with the the dealer installed SE110 kit. My jugs started leaking @ around 1100 miles. Dealer replace O rings cemented the gaskets and Now I have 4000 miles on the bike and 2000 since the repair. I went into the garage tonight and sure enough it's leaking again.
This is my first Harley and the honeymoon is over. I am going to the Triumph Dealer on Monday to look at a Rocket III.
Triumph makes one of the most defect free bikes in the world. I can't believe the British can make anything with moving parts that doesn't self destruct but there are no problems on this bike since 2005 inception. It is sad but true these new Harley's are worse than Yugos. At least Yugos only cost $3000.00. The Rocket III is a 3 banger with 140HP and 147ftlbs of TQ Stock. The bike is an agile crusier even at 800 lbs. And The Damn thing runs an 11.2 @118 MPH 1/4 mile right off the show room floor. It is water cooled so you can actually drive it in traffic and you can buy one under MSRP. MSRP on this machine is $14,995.
I had to get a Harley to see what the Mystque was all about. Now I know.


http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/en-US/Brochures/TR4274_Rocket_III_4.pdf

[Deacon]

One more thing. My bike has developed a real bad vibration at certain rpms. No doubt the MAO SI Tung crankshaft is about to lock up. I am going to have them check the crank runout when they fix the reocuurring jug leak. I would feel real bad selling my bike to an poor unsuspecting soul and having them killed when the motor locks up.
 

[bisounours]

I understand you, Daecon and it's not too late for change for you.
It's you first HD !

For me and probably for other, it's more 15 years with an HD.
I know not why but it's very, very difficult to decide to change.
I know perfectly the description of a Gold because I look the other but I decide not to buy it.

After 35 years of riding, the HD lifestyle is particular and it's a real pleasure.
My CVO would be the best without these problems.
I hope that the solution will arrive in next time

Jacques

[SE08RK]

I hate to say it but they use the same Chinneese garbage parts in the SE110 KIT. I have 07 DYNA FXD with the the dealer installed SE110 kit. My jugs started leaking @ around 1100 miles. Dealer replace O rings cemented the gaskets and Now I have 4000 miles on the bike and 2000 since the repair. I went into the garage tonight and sure enough it's leaking again.
This is my first Harley and the honeymoon is over. I am going to the Triumph Dealer on Monday to look at a Rocket III.
Triumph makes one of the most defect free bikes in the world. I can't believe the British can make anything with moving parts that doesn't self destruct but there are no problems on this bike since 2005 inception. It is sad but true these new Harley's are worse than Yugos. At least Yugos only cost $3000.00. The Rocket III is a 3 banger with 140HP and 147ftlbs of TQ Stock. The bike is an agile crusier even at 800 lbs. And The Damn thing runs an 11.2 @118 MPH 1/4 mile right off the show room floor. It is water cooled so you can actually drive it in traffic and you can buy one under MSRP. MSRP on this machine is $14,995.
I had to get a Harley to see what the Mystque was all about. Now I know.


http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/en-US/Brochures/TR4274_Rocket_III_4.pdf

You need to go for the Triumph. I hope that you find what you are saying about the Rocket III is true and hope to that you realize that the Triumph engine is probably built in a factory in China very close to where the Harley engines are. But they are totally different types of motorcycles, resemblance ending with the two wheels. I doubt that some of these HD problems would be noticed if it weren't for forums like this where CVO people come to discuss their motorcycles and lurkers fail to understand. Go do what you need to do....and don't try to selling a friggin Triumph here! That will be your second motorcycle ever! The first one made you an expert...

BC

[courter]

Now, Now -- play nice  .  He's not the first to rant on the 110 problems, and the rants didn't prevent me from going through with the purchase anyway.  I have confidence (and an extended warranty) that the problems will be taken care of.  Plus, there is really no one that has not been taken care of with great priority, excepting Jacques, with their problems.  The dealers don't know everything, but they do there best. 

As to looking at the Triumph, I'm sure it's a fine motorcycle.  It costs less, and if it is good enough for him, then so be it. 

Not for me, though. 

[16HD117]

I hate to say it but they use the same Chinneese garbage parts in the SE110 KIT. I have 07 DYNA FXD with the the dealer installed SE110 kit. My jugs started leaking @ around 1100 miles. Dealer replace O rings cemented the gaskets and Now I have 4000 miles on the bike and 2000 since the repair. I went into the garage tonight and sure enough it's leaking again.
This is my first Harley and the honeymoon is over. I am going to the Triumph Dealer on Monday to look at a Rocket III.
Triumph makes one of the most defect free bikes in the world. I can't believe the British can make anything with moving parts that doesn't self destruct but there are no problems on this bike since 2005 inception. It is sad but true these new Harley's are worse than Yugos. At least Yugos only cost $3000.00. The Rocket III is a 3 banger with 140HP and 147ftlbs of TQ Stock. The bike is an agile crusier even at 800 lbs. And The Damn thing runs an 11.2 @118 MPH 1/4 mile right off the show room floor. It is water cooled so you can actually drive it in traffic and you can buy one under MSRP. MSRP on this machine is $14,995.
I had to get a Harley to see what the Mystque was all about. Now I know.


http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/en-US/Brochures/TR4274_Rocket_III_4.pdf

The above post is my main gripe about this forum.  But, really, not just this forum, just about every forum.  Everyone post all the problems that they have, but very few people write a post about the positive experiences that they have with their bike!

Deacon, sorry you're not happy with your HD.  But, keep in mind, no piece of machinery is perfect!  In fact, you may want to check out this site before you visit your Trumpet dealer tomorrow.

http://www.r3owners.net/forumdisplay.php?s=e95107e6b57ca482cc48c734e7e077b8&f=12

By the way, since your FXD is such a piece of crap, I'll give you 2K to take it off your hands........

 

[Twolanerider]

The above post is my main gripe about this forum.  But, really, not just this forum, just about every forum.  Everyone post all the problems that they have, but very few people write a post about the positive experiences that they have with their bike!

While that's certainly human nature I'm not sure that (here at least) it's terribly accurate.  We do want to vent about those things that have given problem.  And we do certainly remember the problems we hear of more immediately than we recollect general musings of things gone well.  But there are both; pretty commonly.

Doubt there is any greater cheerleader for a product he likes than TC.  I'd not be surprised if he Glares Diva if she stood still too long.  Henry's engine work is over the top.  Neal was pleased with his body additions.  That list could go on and on (and it has).  Some have even, unfortunately, had both the good and the bad.  I've detailed a few installations of things I've really liked.  And I've bitched about the hassles with Zippers.  The latter while even suggesting the capabilities of the TMax are impressive while the company's implementaiton of it can be sorely lacking.

It's easy to remember the whining and the venting and those things that have been problems.  I think this is a pretty even handed group sharing the good and the bad though.  It's unfortunate that lists for either could be so long as they are.  Would be nice if the "good" list far far far outpaced the "bad" list.  But, for whatever reason, folks have had some real problems.  If you can't kvetch with your friends than where else you gonna do it ?

[grc]

The above post is my main gripe about this forum.  But, really, not just this forum, just about every forum.  Everyone post all the problems that they have, but very few people write a post about the positive experiences that they have with their bike!...

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense that someone would be more likely to post about a problem.  How many folks are going to rush right in from their latest ride, log on, and tell everyone they just rode 100 miles with no failures?  Whoop-de-doo!  Somehow I don't think endless posts of "no problem today" would hold the interest of the members very long.  (BTW, there are plenty of topics on this site that deal with positive experiences.  Check out the threads on various get togethers, threads on various add-on products, threads on tools and maintenance items, etc.)

Cut Deacon some slack folks; not everyone is used to dealing with H-D's version of quality.  

Jerry

[Midnight Rider]

I hate to say it but they use the same Chinneese garbage parts in the SE110 KIT. I have 07 DYNA FXD with the the dealer installed SE110 kit. My jugs started leaking @ around 1100 miles. Dealer replace O rings cemented the gaskets and Now I have 4000 miles on the bike and 2000 since the repair. I went into the garage tonight and sure enough it's leaking again.
This is my first Harley and the honeymoon is over. I am going to the Triumph Dealer on Monday to look at a Rocket III.
Triumph makes one of the most defect free bikes in the world. I can't believe the British can make anything with moving parts that doesn't self destruct but there are no problems on this bike since 2005 inception. It is sad but true these new Harley's are worse than Yugos. At least Yugos only cost $3000.00. The Rocket III is a 3 banger with 140HP and 147ftlbs of TQ Stock. The bike is an agile crusier even at 800 lbs. And The Damn thing runs an 11.2 @118 MPH 1/4 mile right off the show room floor. It is water cooled so you can actually drive it in traffic and you can buy one under MSRP. MSRP on this machine is $14,995.
I had to get a Harley to see what the Mystque was all about. Now I know.


http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/en-US/Brochures/TR4274_Rocket_III_4.pdf

Deacon...I'm really sorry you are having the problems with the motor work performed, and an overall bad experience thus far with your first HD motorcycle.  And yes, there are several good alternatives to two wheeled enjoyment out there for the consumer to choose from.  All of them have had their problems, however.  Gold Wings were cracking frames at one point in time, and still have piss poor suspension from the factory.  Beemers seem to be having some issues with their final drive, from what I hear and read.  Triumph is a nice bike at a good price, and depending on what you use the bike for, will probably be very serviceable.

Have you considered having the dealer put the bike back to original configuration, or seeing if they would replace the bottom end with new 96" cases (the ones on the bike now are bored to accommodate the 110 kit, as I'm sure you know), and putting a 103" kit on the bike, which requires no case mods?

Concerning the HD "experience"...all I can say about that is that you should attend one of our GTG's, no matter the size, and then you'll understand the kind of camaraderie we enjoy here, and some other HD owners/riders.

[Deacon]

I would like to apologize to the real die-hard Harley guys on this forum. I have been working the graveyard shift for 8 days in a row 12 hrs a day to try to pay for my Dyna. My Octoberfest Beer rant was out of line.
I love the bike, looks great handles nice sounds awesome, even ran a 12.5 @ 105.5 MPH 1/4 mile with her a few weeks ago.
It just bothers me to no end that Harley has not fessed up and done a recall or admitted to the poor design or parts in the 110 engine. And I am really worried that the crank run-out issue may lock up my bike on me. I drive it hard. Hell the oil leaks are the least of my worries.

  SE08RK "That will be your second motorcycle ever! The first one made you an expert..."


I have logged over 80,000 miles on 8 different motorcycles since 1967, including over 100 1/4 mile runs in 1969. and I still ain't no expert.  Your username is SE08RK and I assume that you have an '08. Lets see how you react when your bike starts getting the gremlins, and it will. It's just a matter of miles cause the 08's have the same motor as the 07's.

I took my bike out today (I should have been sleeping, getting ready for the graveyard shift), and I got the same thrill as the day I bought it.
I will hang in there waiting to see if Harley ever makes good on these issues, After all I have 6 more years of warranty left.

You say and do things when you are drinking that you regret the next day. (Like the time in 1968 I fired 45 rounds from a rifle from my bedroom window taking out my neighbor's pool, bullet holes imbedded in 3 other houses, and a lot of entertainment from the Local police. That was my first six pack of Colt 45 1/2 qts.)  LOL!! The bully next door never bothered me again the rest of my life. Sometimes it helps to have a reputation for being crazy.
So I wish all of you well and lets hope Harley puts these issues to bed once and for all.
Deacon


   

[SE08RK]

Points taken. I understand your frustration and I'm with you on what my response to the (inevitable?) gremlins may be. I'll be pissed and probably have very bad things to say too. I had a '04 wide glide that started out with electrical problems and never could be repaired. I turned my back on the bike that I loved and was very disheartened with HD, but went right back and bought another one.

  Keep the faith. Get the HD back to running shape and take some time off... good for the heart!

Peace!

BC

[Chief]

Deacon,

If you suspect you have excessive crank run out problems, get it checked. If it is found to be truly bad, then it will be taken care of. If it isn't bad, then you can relax and ride it without the constant anxiety. Either way, you come out a winner.

Good luck.

[DavidB]

What are you asking for that vibrating junky old motorcycle ?

One more thing. My bike has developed a real bad vibration at certain rpms. No doubt the MAO SI Tung crankshaft is about to lock up. I am going to have them check the crank runout when they fix the reocuurring jug leak. I would feel real bad selling my bike to an poor unsuspecting soul and having them killed when the motor locks up.