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We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« on: November 19, 2007, 11:20:24 AM »

          I'm not useally very political but I thought this was pretty good.


     Prime Minister John Howard - Australia

 Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia " "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."

"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American citizens will find the backbone to start speaking and voicing the same truths.

 


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Re: We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2007, 11:41:50 AM »

According to Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp) this dates back to 2005, but is stated as being true.

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Re: We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2007, 01:59:39 PM »

Sounds like the Australians are on to something that we as Americans should consider to adopt principals that characterize what the majority of Americans consider our identity to be and not worry about who gets offended. If people from other countries are just in the U.S. to take advantage of the benefits of living in America and have no intention or desire of becoming an American citizen we should require them to leave our country. Assimilate or leave, resistance is futile!
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Re: We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2007, 05:02:34 PM »

My thoughts are Love it or Leave it  , am willing to help them pack up......
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Re: We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 01:43:29 AM »

My thoughts are Love it or Leave it  , am willing to help them pack up......

And I'll carry their bags! Just GTFO! ;)

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Re: We as Americans, May Need Some Clarity
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2007, 01:48:41 PM »

As an Australian living in the U.S. for the past four years, I can honestly say that I don't really detect much difference between the Americans or Australians viewpoint. I think the average person wants to see any new arrival respect their customs, beliefs and lifestyle and try to fit in, at least to some degree. I haven't met any Americans who don't have healthy interest in other people's cultures and show a great deal of acceptance if people TRY to make an effort to adapt, fit in and show some respect. For instance, look at the tolerance and acceptance that have been shown to the Irish, Germans, Italians, Greeks, Polish, etc from the past.

Having said that, I completely agree with the sentiments expressed by John Howard - it's a pity he's going to get voted out at the end of this month after 11 years as the leader.
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