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Diary of a SEUC
« on: November 29, 2007, 02:27:35 AM »

My 07 Screaming Eagle Ultra Classic 2 finally sold this weekend and I was glad to see it go.  I own two other Harleys to compare this bike with so my prejudices are balanced with familiarity.  My 05 Road King Custom and my 07 Street Glide have had and continue to have their share of problems as Harleys do.  My Screaming Eagle seemed to have more.
   
I had rented a 07 Ultra Classic (96 ci) for a 3day ride up the coast. I was impressed with it. Three months later I decided to buy the Screaming Eagle version. I really liked the two tone blue model and to this day with exception of the leather tour pack, I still think it is the best looking touring model built to date.     

The HEAT was the first thing I noticed. Damn! Can HD make a bike any hotter to ride?
From this forum and others I read that the 07 line up and especially the 110 motors were running hot.  The air fuel ratio seemed to be the culprit.  I’ll get back to this later.

The second thing I noticed was that the bike was not as quick at the 96 cubic inch version. The 110 motor is bigger but I think the EPA sucked the life out of it.  In my opinion, the stock version of the 96 would beat the stock version of the 110 in the quarter mile by 4 or 5 minutes.

The third thing I noticed was the bad gas mileage.  I know this depends on how you ride.  Yes, I know the disclaimer.  Your mileage will vary.  I did 85 mph on the highway.  Yes, it is above speed limit so don’t try this on your highway.  I got 141 miles to the tank and that’s a dry tank.  That is a little over 28 miles to the gallon.  My other two bikes get 170 miles with 0.3 to 0.4 gallons left inside the tank and 194 per tank with same 0.3 to 0.4.  Some of the posts I had read SEUC owners were claiming up to 45 miles to the gallon.  Half their ride must be down hill and at 55mph. Yes I remember, your mileage will vary.

Some of the other problems are familiar to SEUC owners.  The heated grips had to be replaced.  The front fairing had to be replaced because the clear coat around the windshield screws bubbled up. The clamps that hold on the brake and clutch levers had to be replaced because the chrome chipped off.  The bike would die at idle.  Experiencing a slow speed turn while the motor dies only ends up with dropping the bike. Effing Harley. 

I didn’t like the fact that the tour pack didn’t have any lights on the back and in my opinion; the leather tour pack was too small. The seat wasn’t comfortable and the backrest was useless. I couldn’t get the backrest far enough forward without distorting the cushioning in the seat. It needed to be thicker to reach my back.

I’ll get back to the air fuel ratio thing.  It didn’t take me long to figure out this bike ran hot.  When I stopped, a heat wave up would run up my inner thighs.  I called it, “stop light barbecue”. The California Air Resource Board halted any dealer modifications that had anything to with emissions so a SERT wasn’t going to happen.  I looked in the HD P&A catalog and found the Race Fueler. It wasn’t as complicated as the SERT and simpler to understand. The directions tell you what pods do what but no actual settings to start with.  I found the most of the information on another web site.  After interpreting the set-up directions from a different model year, learning how the ECM varied the air fuel ratio at idle and some trial and error, I actually got it work.  I was happy.  It didn’t die, it didn’t get hot and it was noticeably quicker but the gas mileage got worse. 

I bought the bike to do long distance touring.  I like to travel 4 to 6 hundred miles in day. With one eye glued to the gas gage, I would find myself stopping at gas stations in the middle of BFE.  These were the old run down gas stations that probably get one or two customers a year and have buzzards perched on the pumps.  This bike had to effing go.

I did get a lot of looks when I road the bike and had a lot of conversations when I was filling it up although not as many of the conversations were with the opposite sex as I would have liked. I did have some great rides with bike.  I have read posts that talked about head gasket failures and always thought that richening the air fuel ratio would have solved this problem. Maybe I am wrong.  The problems needing Timken bearing conversions, crank run out and oil pump failures were out of my league.  I don’t think I had enough mileage on my bike to encounter these problems.  Boat owners have a saying. “The happiest day of boat owner is the day they get it and the day they sell it”.  That’s how I feel now.  Good luck with your CVO.  Sorry for the long post.
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 02:50:35 AM »

Your first post to a board of CVO owners is a post saying you don't have a CVO any longer and are glad you don't.  Interesting....
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 02:52:24 AM »

By the way; Hi, I'm Don.  Welcome aboard.  Would say hope you enjoy the bike and the community here.  But there's that whole cart and horse thing...  :nixweiss:
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 06:18:10 AM »

That would have been a great first post for the GoldWing forum.
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2007, 08:48:54 AM »

That would have been a great first post for the GoldWing forum.


Bwaaaa Haaaa Haaaa!   :D :D :D

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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2007, 08:53:21 AM »

That would have been a great first post for the GoldWing forum.

I think it's a great first post for this place too. You want the truth! "You can't handle the truth!"

Welcome aboard dn! It's too bad your solution was to get rid of it. Yeah, they sure have some QC issues. Some can handle the constant trips to the dealer with these 110 CVO's. Some take matters into their own hands. These CVO's are the nicest HD's built, but they don't seem to care about the quality at all. Eventually, they can be setup as powerful, reliable touring bikes! That's what I'm banking on anyway. I've said it before, this ain't rocket science. I'll keep modifying it til I get it right, even if there's not 1 HD part left on it! ;)

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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2007, 08:56:24 AM »

That would have been a great letter to send to 'The Enthusiast"....short of actually experiencing head gasket leaks and such...it pretty well summarized things...

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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2007, 09:01:15 AM »

You want the truth! "You can't handle the truth!"
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
Wasn't the guy that spoke this line above that's being quoted the same one that was led away in handcuffs disgraced at the end of the movie?

Interesting comparison?

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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2007, 09:03:26 AM »

Your first post to a board of CVO owners is a post saying you don't have a CVO any longer and are glad you don't.  Interesting....



yes but he has been lurking for awhile. joined 4/07

i hope he forwards a copy to HD.



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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2007, 09:04:59 AM »

Stop it yall!     :D :D :D.

I is ashame that was his experience.  I wasn't laughing at you dude, just the reply.

I still get a feeling that I shoulda kept my 03 flhr, plain jane.
It sure ran good, not that the serk glide don't run strong, but I only have 5.5 k on it.

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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2007, 09:11:21 AM »

would've been happier with a red one!    :cherry:
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2007, 09:20:42 AM »

I think it's a great first post for this place too. You want the truth! "You can't handle the truth!"


I'm curious..Which truths could I not handle?
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2007, 09:26:09 AM »

I'm curious..Which truths could I not handle?

It's a damn movie line! ;D

Wasn't at you Ken. To me, it was just refreshing to read a first post about all his problems then bailing on it, and speaking out on it. On this site, most would find it disheartening. But I'm all for speaking out about these issues. Even if some find it annoying and "can't handle the truth!" ;)

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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 09:30:22 AM »


 Even if some find it annoying


How about if you just thought it was funny :nixweiss: :huepfenlol2: ?
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Re: Diary of a SEUC
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 09:31:19 AM »

Aight' den
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