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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 10:25:36 PM »

Sorry to see your "patient" stripped of all of her dignity. I have a question though. I went through a similar rebuild a few years ago after a gravel encounter outside of Anaconda, Montana. The issue that caused me the most duress (other than broken ribs and torn ligaments) was that after the frame replacement and some new tin work, the bike had to be titled as a salvage reconstruct. Have you checked that out Chief?
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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 10:54:29 PM »

I'm glad you told me about this procedure over the phone before I saw the pictures!!!

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2007, 07:44:36 AM »

:o :'( :-\  That's a scary looking procedure!....One of those procedures that is hard to look at.

I'm sure you will be glad when the finished product is ready to ride.

LRebel,

The whole thing makes me sick. I no  longer have a motorcycle, just a pile of parts. I'm really looking forward to reversing the process very soon.

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2007, 07:49:32 AM »

Sorry to see your "patient" stripped of all of her dignity. I have a question though. I went through a similar rebuild a few years ago after a gravel encounter outside of Anaconda, Montana. The issue that caused me the most duress (other than broken ribs and torn ligaments) was that after the frame replacement and some new tin work, the bike had to be titled as a salvage reconstruct. Have you checked that out Chief?

The short answer is No. Now I'm getting sick. My whole thought process on this was that replacing the frame was just like replacing another part. I can see where I might get screwed on this one now, but like the saying goes, It's too late now.

Does anyone have any information on how that actually works?

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2007, 07:50:53 AM »

Dayum Chief, I knew you were disgusted about the oil leaks, BUT..THAt is going over the top dude! Take a chill pill!  ;D



Originally I thought this was going to be a beneficial move, with no downside. Now I'm having my doubts.

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2007, 08:12:21 AM »

That old bent frame would make a nice project if it found its way back out of the dumpster.

Clamp that thing in the jig, extend the back bone a few inches, add a couple of inches to the down tubes, maybe a couple of extra degrees of rake, wala Hot Rod Bagger.
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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2007, 08:18:06 AM »

That old bent frame would make a nice project if it found its way back out of the dumpster.

Clamp that thing in the jig, extend the back bone a few inches, add a couple of inches to the down tubes, maybe a couple of extra degrees of rake, wala Hot Rod Bagger.

It will be headed to ebay.

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2007, 08:18:45 AM »

The short answer is No. Now I'm getting sick. My whole thought process on this was that replacing the frame was just like replacing another part. I can see where I might get screwed on this one now, but like the saying goes, It's too late now.

Does anyone have any information on how that actually works?

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On one hand you have a clean clear title.
On the other hand you have a salvage title.
Guess which one is worth a LOT more on a trade?

Regardless of how nice the paint looks!

Something you better be checking into!  

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2007, 08:21:04 AM »

On one hand you have a clean clear title.
On the other hand you have a salvage title.
Guess which one is worth a LOT more on a trade?

Regardless of how nice the paint looks!

Something you better be checking into!  

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Good point Chip, if the title is branded, it won't be pretty.

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2007, 08:50:28 AM »

On one hand you have a clean clear title.
On the other hand you have a salvage title.
Guess which one is worth a LOT more on a trade?

Regardless of how nice the paint looks!

Something you better be checking into!  

 :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

I did some checking into it and as far as I can tell since the insurance company never declared it a total, the title will remain free and clear. If they had 'totaled' it and I bought it back to rebuild, then for sure the title would be marked as a salvage title.

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2007, 08:52:54 AM »

I did some checking into it and as far as I can tell since the insurance company never declared it a total, the title will remain free and clear. If they had 'totaled' it and I bought it back to rebuild, then for sure the title would be marked as a salvage title.

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That's good news Chuck!
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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2007, 08:56:58 AM »

The short answer is No. Now I'm getting sick. My whole thought process on this was that replacing the frame was just like replacing another part. I can see where I might get screwed on this one now, but like the saying goes, It's too late now.

Does anyone have any information on how that actually works?

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From Carfax -
Salvage Title — A Salvage Title is issued on a vehicle damaged to the extent that the cost of repairing the vehicle exceeds ~ 75% of its pre-damage value. This damage threshold may vary by state. Some states treat Junk titles the same as Salvage but the majority use this title to indicate that a vehicle is not road worthy and cannot be titled again in that state. The following eleven states also use Salvage titles to identify stolen vehicles - AZ, FL, GA, IL, MD, MN, NJ, NM, NY, OK and OR.

Georgia Motor Vehicle Division:
http://motor.etax.dor.ga.gov/motor/titles/needed/salvage.asp

Chuck, Did your insurance company ever mention anything about salvage value? This would have come up when they determined the amount of your loss. They would have given you an offer if you transferred title to them, they pay and take bike,  or a lower offer if you retained the salvage, meaning they pay and you keep bike. This usually happens when the cost of repairs exceeds a % of the fair market value of the vehicle. I would call your Department of Motor Vehicles and discuss this with them. If it was determined that your bike was in fact a total your insurance company may still be willing to pay you the total value and they take the bike. Good luck and if I can help just let me know. jj
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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2007, 08:58:36 AM »

Nice shift linkage ;)

I was thinking the same thing :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2007, 08:58:53 AM »

That's good news Chuck!

You know how you get that pit in the bottom of your stomach? That was me this morning.  :(

My checking consisted of googling "Salvage Title". I hope the information I found is pertinent.

I mean it would be ridiculous to consider the bike totaled. It sure didn't look 'totaled' at Copperhead Lodge after the accident. It rode fine, just had a really slight wander to the left which was only noticeable when on a straight road when I took my hands off of the bars.  :nixweiss:

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Re: When a Jester Loses His Head....
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2007, 09:02:58 AM »

I did some checking into it and as far as I can tell
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That "so far as I can tell" is about a 4K to 6K dollar swing in value.

If it was me I would be finding out fast.

Unless it doesn't matter to you.

It would to me!

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