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[sadunbar]

So, here is the deal...

The ground is frozen - there is a foot or more of snow on the ground - and it is pouring rain.  It is supposed to continue raining for another couple of hours, then freeze, then snow up to 10 more inches.

I guarantee on tonight's local news, there will be stories of flooding.  The local river, the Rock River, which feeds the Mississippi River eventually, routinely floods low lying areas.  Today's weather will cause flooding somewhere.

A few thoughts...

  With all the water shortages currently being experienced around the country - and with the predictions of water shortages only becoming more severe in future years - whoever figures out how to capture and use the water that currently becomes devastating floods will become a very wealthy person.  It seems at some point in the near future, water management will become a lucrative industry.

  To the communities that continue to allow housing or commercial developments in natural flood plain - stop it - it is stupid and short sighted.

  To the communities that restrict or change the natural flow of water due to housing or commercial developments and create new flood plains - stop it - it is stupid and short sighted.

  To people that actually buy land and build in natural or created flood plains - stop it - it is stupid and shortsighted.  Furthermore, when you do this and then your house or business floods, don't coming running to my tax dollars to be bailed out.  I wasn't the one foolish enough to build in a flood plain - you were.

Myself, the floor of my basement is the same level as the roof of my nearest neighbor.  That's not by accident. 

To my newest neighbor at the bottom of the hill four properties away - sorry - but your 600K property is going to flood again.  Sorry, but WTF did you think was going to happen?   

There...I'm done...   

[Midnight Rider]

Agree 100%, Scott.  Some of the areas where the older/cheaper homes were built is because the land was cheap, and the poor souls who purchased got suckered in and are now stuck there.  But, building new homes in places like that ought to be against the law.

Water management is going to be huge in the future, and water prices are going to rival other utility prices in the not too distant future.  Our area is currently 20 inches + down, and with just "normal" rain amounts, we'll start the summer months off already in deficit.  Water battles are already starting up between Alabama, Georgia, and the Florida panhandle because of Atlanta needing so much, and pulling it away from the downstream needs, which ultimately effects the oyster beds, and other fisheries in the bays of the Panhandle.  Some of the best Oysters anywhere come from that area.  It's gettin' serious.

We don't have problems with flooding much in the Northern half of our state, but down in the southern parts, it gets pretty bad when we used to get rain!

Another rant of mine is people living on the Gulf Coast beachfront property, and removing the dunes when they build, which are natural barriers for the inevitable Hurricanes that hit the areas.  It's not IF, it's only WHEN

[Screamin]

So, here is the deal...

The ground is frozen - there is a foot or more of snow on the ground - and it is pouring rain.  It is supposed to continue raining for another couple of hours, then freeze, then snow up to 10 more inches.

I guarantee on tonight's local news, there will be stories of flooding.  The local river, the Rock River, which feeds the Mississippi River eventually, routinely floods low lying areas.  Today's weather will cause flooding somewhere.

A few thoughts...

  With all the water shortages currently being experienced around the country - and with the predictions of water shortages only becoming more severe in future years - whoever figures out how to capture and use the water that currently becomes devastating floods will become a very wealthy person.  It seems at some point in the near future, water management will become a lucrative industry.

  To the communities that continue to allow housing or commercial developments in natural flood plain - stop it - it is stupid and short sighted.

  To the communities that restrict or change the natural flow of water due to housing or commercial developments and create new flood plains - stop it - it is stupid and short sighted.

  To people that actually buy land and build in natural or created flood plains - stop it - it is stupid and shortsighted.  Furthermore, when you do this and then your house or business floods, don't coming running to my tax dollars to be bailed out.  I wasn't the one foolish enough to build in a flood plain - you were.

Myself, the floor of my basement is the same level as the roof of my nearest neighbor.  That's not by accident. 

To my newest neighbor at the bottom of the hill four properties away - sorry - but your 600K property is going to flood again.  Sorry, but WTF did you think was going to happen?   

There...I'm done...   

Winter sucks. You'll feel better in a month.

[BayouBiker]

Wow, Good one...
About time someone goes off about flooding somewhere besides New Orleans!

I live in a Flood Zone 'B' here in New Orleans.
The smart folks paid for flood insurance (max coverage @ $317/yr), & the others don't care & wait for gov't assistance.
My house is 6ft above sea level & still got over 5ft of flood water. 

Although after the Katrina & Rita storms, people think we're stupid to live here, but the city has been here for hundreds of years and rarely ever has major flooding. (last big flood was in 1964)

The Army Corps of Engineers ( ) built our levee system weak and below the level mandated by Congress.
Holland is much farther below sea level than any part of the US and because they are serious about their flood control systems, they don't flood.

People that live along the mid-western area of the Mississippi River and connecting rivers get flooding nearly every year due to the spring melt.
Why live there?
Why not build on raised pilings like we do here? Our Parish (county) has a building regulation that states new housing must be raised a minimum 3ft above ground level, but many go higher and put their garage/car-port under the house.

Thanks again, sadunbar, for ranting about flooding elsewhere!!

[HogBreath]

It's all really simple. If you can buy a $600,000 home, I'd assume you can afford insurance. Why would the government need to help you financially? Even if you can't afford a $600,000 home, why should the government supply you with one? If you don't work, you don't eat. In the most extreme cases where people just can not do better, I'm the first one to say let's help them. In the old days, when people got sick, the neighbors & families stepped up to help their own. The whole thing is out of hand. I live in the New Madrid faul zone. Someday there will be a major earthquake here and it will be disastrous. The question is..will it be in my lifetime? If it is during my lifetime, I can promise you I won't sit around waiting on handouts from Big Brother. My family would starve to death before it happened. A country boy can survive.

[grc]

...............................................  To people that actually buy land and build in natural or created flood plains - stop it - it is stupid and shortsighted.  Furthermore, when you do this and then your house or business floods, don't coming running to my tax dollars to be bailed out.  I wasn't the one foolish enough to build in a flood plain - you were.....................................................

Right on.  It never ceases to amaze me how folks continue to buy and build in areas that have recurring histories of natural disasters.  Flood plains, sides of unstable mountains, shorelines, you name it.  Back when I lived on the east coast I was amazed at not only the stupidity of the folks who built right on the shoreline, but also at the stupidity of the folks who kept approving them for federal flood insurance as well as the taxpayers who ultimately helped foot the bills to keep rebuilding.  I think it's time to eliminate the federal flood insurance programs for those who knowingly buy or build in harms way.  Anyone who can afford to live right on the shoreline, for instance, probably is much wealthier than the rest of us who help support their lifestyle with our taxes.  Take away the federal guarantees/subsidies and I wonder how many would continue to rebuild only to be washed away by the next hurricane? 

As noted in another thread, lots of folks seem to begrudge taxpayer support for the poor.  Well, I for one would much rather see my taxes go to help the poor instead of support the well-to-do and their lavish lifestyles. 

Jerry

[EAGLE1]

be glad you dont live on the rock river, we have friends with frontage property that have been fighting the flooding because of the ice dams forming under the bridges for the last two months, this will just add insult to injury.

[Hugh Janis]

be glad you dont live on the rock river, we have friends with frontage property that have been fighting the flooding because of the ice dams forming under the bridges for the last two months, this will just add insult to injury.

Yet the mighty Colorado river, carver of the Grand Canyon, doesn't even REACH the ocean anymore.  The water instead is used to provide lush green lawns for people who retired to Arizona from areas where they had lush green lawns naturally.  WTF

[spydglide]

Yet the mighty Colorado river, carver of the Grand Canyon, doesn't even REACH the ocean anymore.  The water instead is used to provide lush green lawns for people who retired to Arizona from areas where they had lush green lawns naturally.  WTF

It's the same thing as the indoor ski resort they just built in the desert with our 'oil dollars'.  If people are willing to pay.....then: let the lavish excesses rule!  Why stop at what you need when you can have what you want.    har!  spyder