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[RJ749]

Poll: 3 in 4 Think the USA is in a Recession

More than three in four Americans think the country is in a recession, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll over the weekend shows, reflecting a crisis of confidence that economists say could make the economy worse. Seventy-six percent of those polled said the economy is in recession, compared to 22 percent who said it's not. Not since September 1992, two months before President George H.W. Bush lost re-election, have so many Americans said the economy was in such bad shape. "Recessions are almost always crises of confidence, and that's what we're having right now," said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor's. "When people experience higher gasoline prices, higher heating costs, fewer employment opportunities, housing prices going down … then the common sense conclusion is things aren't very good," said Brian Bethune of economic forecaster Global Insight. Their pessimism "creates more problems," he said.
Source:  USA Today

How did I forget it was Bush number one the last time the economy was this bad? 

Well, the only way out is "attitude" and with the Dems pushing their agenda and the press pushing for full scale recession it will be hard to change the current mood of the American public.

We used to be able to say I don't know "anyone" that has lost a job etc. but unfortunately I can't fall into that camp any longer.

I am doing my best to spend my way out of a recession though so if we all do, maybe it will help.  

Ah chit, I forgot, the letter from the IRS yesterday reminded me I get squat on the Tax Incentive.  Who's kidding who with that anyway, two tanks of gas for the one ton.

[Boatman]

Ah chit, I forgot, the letter from the IRS yesterday reminded me I get squat on the Tax Incentive. 

Their just giving us an advance on next years tax return refund anyway.  A lot of us here won't get a refund.   We can help those that do spend it on their bikes.

[RJ749]

Their just giving us an advance on next years tax return refund anyway.  A lot of us here won't get a refund.   We can help those that do spend it on their bikes.

Sounds good to me, I always enjoy helping a brohter out with some suggestions

[HogBreath]

Ah chit, I forgot, the letter from the IRS yesterday reminded me I get squat on the Tax Incentive.  Who's kidding who with that anyway, two tanks of gas for the one ton.

That's because your taxable income has a bunch of zeros at the end! 

[RJ749]

That's because your taxable income has a bunch of zeros at the end! 

That's because your tax able income   has a bunch of zeros at the end!   

[grc]

"Economy needs help BUY CHROME"

If you want to help the USA economy as opposed to the Chinese economy, you may want to avoid the H-D stuff and look for some "Made in America" parts.  Get them while you can, before the only things made in America are fast food and empty promises.

Jerry

[RJ749]

"Economy needs help BUY CHROME"

If you want to help the USA economy as opposed to the Chinese economy, you may want to avoid the H-D stuff and look for some "Made in America" parts.  Get them while you can, before the only things made in America are fast food and empty promises.

Jerry

That is true, but in the case of HD chrome they buy for $2.00 and sell for $10.00 a good portion stays here either with HD or the dealer.

[Fired00d]

Somebody has been eating good since I purchased Harley's then.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SBB]

That is true, but in the case of HD chrome they buy for $2.00 and sell for $10.00 a good portion stays here either with HD or the dealer.

Then someone list it on Ebay for $5.00 and I offer them $2.00 and get it for $3.00 and then have to pay $5.00 to ship it because diesel is $4.25 a friggin gallon.

The least expensive product cost the most.

Someone ought to get a few Exxon Execs and hang them in public view and denut them for raping the American trucking business. I don't have a trucking business but how greedy is it to charge the most for the least product. How many billions does Exxon make every second?

Damn (sorry Ernie) the oil companies piss me off!

 

[RJ749]

Somebody has been eating good since I purchased Harley's then.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Gary, no question the big $$$$ are in the Parts and Accessories as far as margin.

Obviously they have to sell bikes to sell the ancilliary goodies too, but there's big dollars on the back end for HD.

[RJ749]

Then someone list it on Ebay for $5.00 and I offer them $2.00 and get it for $3.00 and then have to pay $5.00 to ship it because diesel is $4.25 a friggin gallon.

The least expensive product cost the most.

Someone ought to get a few Exxon Execs and hang them in public view and denut them for raping the American trucking business. I don't have a trucking business but how greedy is it to charge the most for the least product. How many billions does Exxon make every second?

Damn (sorry Ernie) the oil companies piss me off!

 

I paid $4.06.9 today at the jippo diesel place.

How is it my "autofill" furnace oil supplier always fills my tank at the peak winter rates?    

[SBB]

I paid $4.06.9 today at the jippo diesel place.

How is it my "autofill" furnace oil supplier always fills my tank at the peak winter rates?    

America runs on trucks. With this latest round of increases EVERYTHING is going up.
We all bite the bullet and try to keep prices down.
Do the oil companies? NO
Hang the oil company execs in public and denut them.
I bet then diesel fuel will come down to below the price of gas where it should be.

[Unbalanced]

Keeping this theme in mind of saving gasoline and spurring on the economy, I was out today looking for a newer / more fuel efficient mode of transportation to help lessen our dependencies on OPEC and such monopolies during this gas crunch.   Today, I happened upon a bike, although the dealer couldn't quite tell me the gas mileage or other l tidbits about the bike.    I asked a few pertinent questions of the dealer about the bike, but Unfortunately the were unable or unwilling to share any history about the bike with me.   They did say the owner had too many other motorcycles that he was fond of and this one just had to go, ??.      One has to wonder why a man wouldn't be so found of the 1st production model "M" model to hit the streets.   The dealer was unable to contact the owner to talk about price (phone disconnnected) , they said it had been there quite a while, but that was as far as they would comment.    While going over the bike I noticed this strange black shock like item connecting the frame to the front end.  They said the bike would come with this steering stabilizer, one has to wonder why such a finely built, well crafted machine such as this would need any after market assistance with stability.   I know on my bike which puts out at least what this bike does, and it doesn't need any such assistance .. hrmph ...

So does this bike fit me well what do you think?      

[grc]

America runs on trucks. With this latest round of increases EVERYTHING is going up.
We all bite the bullet and try to keep prices down.
Do the oil companies? NO
Hang the oil company execs in public and denut them.
I bet then diesel fuel will come down to below the price of gas where it should be.

You bring up a point that many of us have been questioning for many years now.  How is it that diesel and fuel oil, which were considered to be the "sludge at the bottom of the barrel" or the leftovers after refining the crude into the more desireable products, went almost overnight from being dirt cheap to being higher priced than gasoline?  

One theory says that as the companies have developed better refining methods to improve the yield of gasoline from a barrel of crude, the amount of diesel and fuel oil per barrel has of course decreased.  Then stricter exhaust emissions rules required a lower sulfur content in the fuel, which in turn requires additional refining steps and increases costs for the oil company.  So at the same time that much of the industry in this country abandoned rail in favor of trucks (to support just-in-time delivery and reduced inventories), the supply of diesel was reduced and the cost to produce it increased.  Increased demand with reduced supply equals higher prices.

My personal theory is that some "ace" in the industry finally realized that diesel has more energy content per gallon than gasoline, and that they should therefore charge more for the higher energy product.  And thus, the lowly "sludge" has magically become the "high priced spread".   (approximate energy levels: gasoline 125,000 BTU per gallon, diesel 139,200 BTU per gallon)  Using current national averages for cost per gallon, the cost per BTU calculates as follows:  Gasoline $0.000026 per BTU, Diesel $0.000028 per BTU.

JMHO - Jerry

[Unbalanced]

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The steering stabilizer.   Have to wonder if this would help other fairing bikes for stability or not.