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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2008, 02:16:16 PM »

I was losing bulbs fairly regularly until I sealed the stems and the caps with some clear silicone sealant.  Have not lost one since doing so...        :2vrolijk_21:

How did you do the lenses neatly?

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2008, 03:18:15 PM »

That's one of the things I really, really envy you guys for, Nait.  Local hardware stores where you can just drop in find any item you want.  Here in the highlands of Scotland - Heck, even in the big cities in the UK - these places don't exist.  :(

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if you can figure out the dimensions of what you need, i'm sure we can find a way to get them to you
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2008, 03:18:55 PM »

How did you do the lenses neatly?

Jim

Not easy - but with a very fine tip on a tube of silicone sealant and enough patience to go very slow...  but at the end, I think it was sealing the stems that made the biggest improvement...
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2008, 05:51:34 PM »

if you can figure out the dimensions of what you need, i'm sure we can find a way to get them to you

That would be cool!  they'd have to be ultra-thin O-rings <stretched to?> around 2ΒΌ" diameter.

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2008, 05:52:51 PM »

I think it was sealing the stems that made the biggest improvement...

I'm not so sure - you can actually see the light coming through the join between the chromed plastic and the turn signal bodies...

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2008, 10:24:15 PM »

That's one of the things I really, really envy you guys for, Nait.  Local hardware stores where you can just drop in find any item you want.  Here in the highlands of Scotland - Heck, even in the big cities in the UK - these places don't exist.  :(

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Yea Jim, what's up with that!  I was down in Hockwold, (the fens), and I simply had to nick stuff from the base to get any hardware.  It seems to me a guy could make a mint opening up a decently stocked hardware store over there.  Just pick a spot and open the door! 
Use the silicone instead.... even I was able to get it on okay.    Worked best for me by putting in on the light and then sticking the lens in.  I'll tell you how it works later. I just did it the weekend, and bulb ain't burned out yet!   :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 05:16:13 AM »

Yea Jim, what's up with that!  I was down in Hockwold, (the fens), and I simply had to nick stuff from the base to get any hardware.  It seems to me a guy could make a mint opening up a decently stocked hardware store over there.  Just pick a spot and open the door! 
Use the silicone instead.... even I was able to get it on okay.    Worked best for me by putting in on the light and then sticking the lens in.  I'll tell you how it works later. I just did it the weekend, and bulb ain't burned out yet!   :2vrolijk_21:



I suppose that if I could wipe the excess off round the joint afterwards, silicone would be the best for sure.  What's a good solvent for the stuf to wipe with afterwards is the question I guess....

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2008, 10:44:27 AM »

I suppose that if I could wipe the excess off round the joint afterwards, silicone would be the best for sure.  What's a good solvent for the stuf to wipe with afterwards is the question I guess....

JIm

After getting the rear sealed where the wires enter the water problem will pretty much go away.  After that, if in a clean and normal size/shaped housing, the lens will actually work ok.  If you'd like to try to the o-ring trick, however, I've got an o-ring assortment kit out in the shop.  Not sure if there's anything quite that large in the kit.  But will look and see.  If so I'll drop some in an envelope and let them take a vacation to the United Kingdom.
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2008, 10:49:53 AM »

After getting the rear sealed where the wires enter the water problem will pretty much go away.  After that, if in a clean and normal size/shaped housing, the lens will actually work ok.  If you'd like to try to the o-ring trick, however, I've got an o-ring assortment kit out in the shop.  Not sure if there's anything quite that large in the kit.  But will look and see.  If so I'll drop some in an envelope and let them take a vacation to the United Kingdom.

Maybe you're right, Don - but the fact that you can plainly see light coming out of the joint when the turn signal is on makes me think the join is a worse culprit....  O ring would have to be v.v. thin, of course.   I have little ones, but they won't stretch (even warmed) to the required diameter.

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2008, 10:52:49 AM »

After getting the rear sealed where the wires enter the water problem will pretty much go away.  After that, if in a clean and normal size/shaped housing, the lens will actually work ok.  If you'd like to try to the o-ring trick, however, I've got an o-ring assortment kit out in the shop.  Not sure if there's anything quite that large in the kit.  But will look and see.  If so I'll drop some in an envelope and let them take a vacation to the United Kingdom.

Don, let me know if oyu find the right size. i have a local shop where i got some thin o-rings in the 2/16" id range to use for my guage mounting. i can pick some up
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2008, 10:53:26 AM »

Maybe you're right, Don - but the fact that you can plainly see light coming out of the joint when the turn signal is on makes me think the join is a worse culprit....  O ring would have to be v.v. thin, of course.   I have little ones, but they won't stretch (even warmed) to the required diameter.

Jim


Not sure how your lenses and housing might be now.  Normally a bit of water can intrude in the front.  But it can't get trapped and will run right back out.  The chrome rings around the lenses actually help with that too.  But it's the water that comes in from the rear that's the real killer.

It gets trapped behind the bulb and socket eating both. Then the slightly corroded and otherwise messy water slowly leeches forward in to the housing and causes more mess.
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2008, 10:54:36 AM »

Don, let me know if oyu find the right size. i have a local shop where i got some thin o-rings in the 2/16" id range to use for my guage mounting. i can pick some up

Will do Neal. Got to be in the shop this afternoon anyway.  Will take a spare lens with me and if I've got anything.
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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2008, 10:57:24 AM »

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2008, 11:00:37 AM »


Not sure how your lenses and housing might be now.  Normally a bit of water can intrude in the front.  But it can't get trapped and will run right back out.  The chrome rings around the lenses actually help with that too.  But it's the water that comes in from the rear that's the real killer.

It gets trapped behind the bulb and socket eating both. Then the slightly corroded and otherwise messy water slowly leeches forward in to the housing and causes more mess.

Maybe mine are busy doing that behind the reflector where I can't see, but I can say for sure that A LOT of water and grit goes in the front (especially when I wash the bike, and while most of the water may run out, the grit remains, and at least some water, because they steam up.  I have to remove the lenses c/w chrome rings every time I wash the bike to dry inside, and periodically I press the lens out of the chrome ring to try to clean out the mess of grit (no black eyed peas though!  ;)) that builds up in there.  Shockingly cheap and poor design, even for Harvey Donaldson's Chinese Emporium. :nixweiss:

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Re: Yet another bad light day...
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2008, 11:02:55 AM »

It's that damn UK water you have to use. Blame the English!!  They force it on you!! :huepfenlol2:
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