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[wenchal]

All black makes sense with their recent "dark custom" theme.

[spydglide]

I know they are a big money maker but I am sure sick of the Ultra's

Wish we could get a Street Glide or a SEEG or a harbag RK.

Oh well 2010' will be discussed starting next Tues

You're riding the finest one they ever produced.......you want more?     har!  spyder

[bbrown]

You're riding the finest one they ever produced.......you want more?     har!  spyder

Spydglide.  It is a great bike but sure would like the 6 speed, 6 gallon tank and ABS

[sportygordy]

According to this the FL Touring Police and the Electraglide Police are 1688 cc and that comes out to 103", not 110".

And I still don't know what a Road King Heritage is.

Your right... think i had toooo many beers.. thanks for correcting..

[Sean M Cary]

Talking about something that would send me to the funny farm.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

It must be a Zen thing...

[twowheeler63]

 A newbie here. I don't own a CVO, don't have the cash. I've been reading this thread from way back, and have come to the conclusion most are unhappy with their rides. I've heard alot of praise about the S&S engine, and have wondered why someone wouldn't just buy a regular UC or whatever, put the S&S in it and sell the HD motor. After the warranty period of couse?

 I also read about how much better, faster and cheaper Brand X is, and find myself wondering what this has to do with anything at all! They also have much lower resale value when used. In "05", in the Kansas City area, dealers were still trying to sell their "03" vtx's. If this type of bike appeals to you, then you're on the wrong forum anyway.

 I've been riding HD's since 1978, and I have never lingered under the impression that they were the fastest thing going, and that is not why the longtime faithful bought them. I started with a "61" XLCH and it was fast as a 900 Kaw belonging to a friend. I found out later that it was a built motor! I then bought a "63" FL, which I still ride daily to work, and a "01" RK for touring. I guess we all buy what we buy for a different reason, but I just like to ride, be it fast or not. My RK has 78,500 miles on it as of today, and who knows how many on the FL? 

 I'd say, don't try to be the first one on the block with the new model, and let someone else have the headaches! Just my opinion. Flush it down the drain, if it makes you happy.

 HD rider for as long as the good Lord allows.

[rubaga]

A newbie here

Let me be the first one to welcome you to this site.

[DavidB]

I hear there is a new frame coming with a redirected exaust to reduce heat felt by the rider.

[spydglide]

I hear there is a new frame coming with a redirected exaust to reduce heat felt by the rider.

Maybe they'll fill the frame with engine oil and make it more of a oil-cooled engine rather than a air-cooled one.  That's what Porsche did with their oil/air cooled engines, isn't it?  spyder

[VaEagle]

Welcome twowheeler63,
There have been many discussions on this site about the "Love/Hate" relationship with our bikes and the MOCO.
I guess the positive aspects of the owners is loyalty and optimism. We love the look,feel and sound of the Harley.
The other side of the coin is many members here spend big bucks for a "Custom" built bike and they wish it would run right from the MOCO and not have problems. If you add up the cost of all the chrome and accessories the CVO is the economical way to go vs. buying a stock Harley and adding the parts.
The MOCO has a great PR system that makes most of us love the new models such as 6 speed and a six gallon tank, ABS etc. And we also may fall for the PR when it comes to fixing problems. They are very good at hiding the total percentage of bikes with problems vs. total bikes sold so we may find in a website like this that the problems you read a lot about are from a certain few who have issues.
Think about it, how many folks with NO problems would find a website and post "I rode my bike today and nothing went wrong!"
I think most of us here would not trade our Harleys but you can find things to admire about other bike brands. Many cost 1/3 the price to begin with, you just turn the key on them and go without changing the intake or pipes etc. and many have way more performance for that lower price too.
I guess is a perfect world we would love a true custom Harley that didn't look like every other one in the parking lot, we ordered it the way we wanted it, turned the key and didn't have to worry about anything except routine maintenance.
The EPA regulations hurt the newer bikes and they make them run way hotter than the older bikes. This is one area the MOCO is hampered by government regulations, trying to get an old design motor to meet new standards.
I do agree with you about trying to get the newest thing on the block. I try not to buy any first year bike, car,truck etc. AS much as i would love to see a large water cooled HD I will wait a couple years for the MOCO to work out the bugs before i buy one.

[twowheeler63]

 Thanks for the welcome.

 I hear what you are saying about riders wanting their own custom. But, until you can sit down and pick from a list of options, wont everyones be mostly alike?  And, I have a real problem with add ons coming from overseas. I am really bitter about what we as a nation have let our country come to. I make less a year than most spend on a new crew cab 4x4 truck these days, but I do my best to buy only american products. I haven't added much to the RK from the dealers geegaws, because most of it comes from the Far East. Nothing confuses me more than seeing a WWII veteran in a Toyota.

 Last year, at the rally in Sturgis, Kentucky, I met a rider with a brand new SEUC. Or I think it was. It was strange to me, as it had a leather tourpack. Maybe it was just  a SE electraglide. Anyway, I looked very nice to me, but he was a little dissapointed for the money, although, he didn't elaborate on the problem. I must admit, it was very sharp looking.

 As far as a water cooled motor goes, does anyone remember the 100ci knuckle motor from the 40's? It was just for racing I think.

 I don't care for the v-rod, but I feel it is needed to pull in the younger thinking group. If they could just get the price where it needs to be, it would help.

 Buells don't do a thing for me either. I'm too lazy to lean over all day!
 
 I'm just your typical 50 year old guy that resists change.

 I don't like the term "old school" either. Mainly, because think that is how it should be, and todays "choppers" should be called "new wave".

 Anyway, enough rambling. I'll just keep reading with interest.

[d o g o l s]

twowheeler63 welcome aboard 

[Gone Fishin']

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I've been reading this thread from way back, and have come to the conclusion most are unhappy with their rides.
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Hi 63,

I am sorry you have the impression that most here are unhappy with their bikes. I can assure you, it is quite to the contrary. It is actually because most of us could not think of riding anything else than a Harley, discussions tend to be at a level of details and also emotion, not to be found elsewhere so easily. That may have given you the impression, we all hate our bikes. If you stick around a while, you may find reasons to change your judgement ;-).
And than there is the group with the true love/hate relation .... ;-)))

Ride safely,
Louis

[miker]

Love mine, all of them, and the ones I had before the ones I have now!

[Lucky Rick]

I am a new member but have been reading this site for a long time. I have a couple riding buddies that have SE Ultra's.  '06 SE with 26000 miles just had the lifters replaced. He switched out the pipes and installed the race tuner and no other problems, the other is '07 SE and he had the "fix" at 1500 miles.  Leaky heads, piston hitting the head, ect.  He has not had any other problems. Mine is '08 with 6200 miles and no problems except the hand grips. Needless to say, all would buy another when the time is right. Not sure what that time is, but I also have '02 Road King that I will always have.  I will put the 95 kit in later this winter.  All in all, I'm happy with what I have.