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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 11:16:52 AM »

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2008, 11:26:39 AM »

Maybe they should fix some of the problems with the bikes, then they might not have to lay people off to pay the top brass! Hope the lay of the some of their engine design engineers!
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 12:15:13 PM »

The other 360 non-production jobs should be the 110 motor design team, bring in a new group to take a wack at fixing the issues, the existing team ain't getting it done.
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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 12:51:10 PM »

Interesting news but certainly not surprising.  "Iconic motorcycles" are they talking about the 08 MY or the 09MY? :nixweiss:
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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 02:43:42 PM »

I knew it was coming. It was just a matter of time. And to tell you the truth. I think the number figures are low. Every dealer around here is sitting on 200 plus bikes. Including a bunch of CVO's.

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2008, 03:00:57 PM »

I knew it was coming. It was just a matter of time. And to tell you the truth. I think the number figures are low. Every dealer around here is sitting on 200 plus bikes. Including a bunch of CVO's.

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You're absolutely right...I was in a dealership on Monday, looking into buying a street glide for a commuter...when I walked in there, there were so many bikes on the floor that you could barely walk around them...over in the corner I saw two 08 SERKs, an 08 SEDyna, and an 08 SE Springer.  When the sales lady walked me back through the service department, they had probably another 100 new motorcycles sitting there waiting to go out on the floor, including a Canyon Copper 08 SEUC.  I commented that I'd never seen so many SE's in a dealership at one time.  She told me that she "thought" the SEUC was sold and that's why it was in the back room.  Before I left she told me that whatever any dealer around was offering they would match or beat to get my business...so this may be a good time for me to buy the Street Glide (had my eye on a crimson red one) for below MSRP.  8)  I think they'd do just about anything, within reason, to move a bike right now.

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2008, 03:21:55 PM »

According to the article, HD sold 330,000 units last year or 975 per day, six days a week. That is 121 / hour or 2 per second for an 8 hour day.
How many production sites are there? What is the tac time per unit? :-\
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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2008, 03:32:34 PM »

Sales guy at local HD just called this morning ....says manager ready to strike deal on bikes ......they getting backed up wont be long and getting a CVO around sealer invoice might not be out of the question
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2008, 05:21:10 PM »

You're absolutely right...I was in a dealership on Monday, looking into buying a street glide for a commuter...when I walked in there, there were so many bikes on the floor that you could barely walk around them...over in the corner I saw two 08 SERKs, an 08 SEDyna, and an 08 SE Springer.  When the sales lady walked me back through the service department, they had probably another 100 new motorcycles sitting there waiting to go out on the floor, including a Canyon Copper 08 SEUC.  I commented that I'd never seen so many SE's in a dealership at one time.  She told me that she "thought" the SEUC was sold and that's why it was in the back room.  Before I left she told me that whatever any dealer around was offering they would match or beat to get my business...so this may be a good time for me to buy the Street Glide (had my eye on a crimson red one) for below MSRP.  8)  I think they'd do just about anything, within reason, to move a bike right now.

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2008, 05:52:41 PM »

The 110 design team is three people.   :cucumber:

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Diedrich said slower production will protect the brand and help dealers avoid sales promotions just to clear inventory.

"Protecting the brand at Harley is job number one," Diedrich said. "It's a very high-quality brand and that's the most important thing."

To achieve the cuts, Harley will temporarily idle plants and change daily production rates, Ziemer said. These changes will result in the loss of about 370 unionized employees over the next several months, he said. About 80 percent of those cuts will be at the company's largest plant, in York, Pa., which has more than 2,770 hourly workers. About 14 percent of the cuts will be at plants in Milwaukee, the company said. It's not clear where the remainder will be. The company has plants throughout Wisconsin and in Kansas City, though spokesman Bob Klein said it appeared Kansas City wouldn't be affected.

Could be an interesting tour at York.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2008, 05:54:09 PM »

The 110 design team is three people.   :cucumber:

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Diedrich said slower production will protect the brand and help dealers avoid sales promotions just to clear inventory.

"Protecting the brand at Harley is job number one," Diedrich said. "It's a very high-quality brand and that's the most important thing."

To achieve the cuts, Harley will temporarily idle plants and change daily production rates, Ziemer said. These changes will result in the loss of about 370 unionized employees over the next several months, he said. About 80 percent of those cuts will be at the company's largest plant, in York, Pa., which has more than 2,770 hourly workers. About 14 percent of the cuts will be at plants in Milwaukee, the company said. It's not clear where the remainder will be. The company has plants throughout Wisconsin and in Kansas City, though spokesman Bob Klein said it appeared Kansas City wouldn't be affected.

Could be an interesting tour at York.



Yeah, we better have a prospect stay outside and keep an eye on the bikes while we're inside! :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2008, 06:03:19 PM »

Maybe a disgruntled ex worker will tell all about the engine issues for a few bucks.  Or at least info on the 2009s.
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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2008, 06:42:51 PM »

What is going to happen with all of the dealer inventory when the 2008s hit the dealer floors in Mid July especially the way the economy is affecting people in different parts of the US. Stay tuned for great bargains.

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Re: HD Cuts Jobs as Profits Skid....
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2008, 06:54:35 PM »

The way the economy is going there are going to be less people spending money on toys (bikes). There will be a lot of changes coming unless things change.

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