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[DCFIREMANN]

Then I would think he'd be a little bit kinder and more sympathetic to these people's issues then. This is no joking matter when people spend 35 grand of their hard earned money to get the bike of their dreams, only to find they've just entered hell instead. Anyone bored with reading about the 110's should just not read it. I have a feeling you're gonna keep hearing about it more and more as time passes, until they all get fixed. But calling people whiners because they don't know where to turn on this, while having HD treat them like idiots, surely doesn't help at all!

Hoist!

Howie believe me he does. It is a problem that has no fix as of yet. What good does it do to come on here and rant and rave about a problem that has been around for 2 years?

We know the problem exsists. Now if you want to impress everyone here POST ABOUT THE FIX!!!!!! Hell I wish I could and beat everyone to it.

As far as no where to turn, I agree. The MOCO left you and a bunch of others hanging out to dry. What good does it do to air it here EVERYDAY??? You are good at organizeing events. Go find a lawyer to file a class action lawsuit and get everyone with a 110 involved. That might be the solution to the problem right now.

Get in the MOCO's pocket DEEP. Maybe the fix will be a new motor.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Hoist!]

Howie believe me he does. It is a problem that has no fix as of yet. What good does it do to come on here and rant and rave about a problem that has been around for 2 years?

We know the problem exsists. Now if you want to impress everyone here POST ABOUT THE FIX!!!!!! Hell I wish I could and beat everyone to it.

As far as no where to turn, I agree. The MOCO left you and a bunch of others hanging out to dry. What good does it do to air it here EVERYDAY??? You are good at organizeing events. Go find a lawyer to file a class action lawsuit and get everyone with a 110 involved. That might be the solution to the problem right now.

Get in the MOCO's pocket DEEP. Maybe the fix will be a new motor.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Hehe, where ya been Mike. What do you think I've been posting about since Dec. THE FIX. The fix my way! Take 8500 bucks out of my pocket, FTF & FTW, and build your own engine. New cases, S&S crank, Timken conversion, everything available Feuling, Axtell barrels, CP pistons, and worked heads with no HD parts left in em! To me, that's the only fix.

I tried going this route after the 1st failure, only to be screwed by an HD dealer that didn't know how to assemble an engine properly. Nothing lost then but my time, since they were charging all the labor to w.....ty. So I then went to a real engine builder that I know personally and he built me an entire engine, from the ground up, using most of the parts we used on the first attempt.

So I now have a completely custom built 110 in my bike, fully paid for by me, so I don't have to bitch and whine about my bike breaking. 8500 bucks out of my pocket to get that privilege, with no help or satisfaction from the MoCo. And lawyers ain't my style. Riding my bike is. And it's gotta be strong and reliable. I knew what I had to do to get that, and that's what I did. Others aren't necessarily in that boat, or have the desire to do anything but rely on the Factory.

Am I happy spending 8500 bucks out of my pocket after spending 32 grand on the bike itself? F NO!!! But I did what I have to because I can't go thru the crap everyone else is now. Complaining about people complaining, is worse than hearing all the bitching about these 110's! So let em vent a little man! No skin off your nose. AXIL's either!!!

ADDED: And BTW Mike, don't you think that all this documentation here of everyone's issues will help them should they later decide to go the legal route? Nothing but good can come from everyone discussing and documenting these issues here!

Hoist!

[skreminegul07]

Howie believe me he does. It is a problem that has no fix as of yet. What good does it do to come on here and rant and rave about a problem that has been around for 2 years?
We know the problem exsists. Now if you want to impress everyone here POST ABOUT THE FIX!!!!!! Hell I wish I could and beat everyone to it.

As far as no where to turn, I agree. The MOCO left you and a bunch of others hanging out to dry. What good does it do to air it here EVERYDAY??? You are good at organizeing events. Go find a lawyer to file a class action lawsuit and get everyone with a 110 involved. That might be the solution to the problem right now.

Get in the MOCO's pocket DEEP. Maybe the fix will be a new motor.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

It's does a lot of good to know there is a new version of gasket so your dealer doesn't install the known bad ones.  It's also nice to update the dealer about liner issues, crank runout issues.  If this site did not exist, I would not have known there was a known problem, others would be buying more of these, I would not not have known to have the crank checked which led to a new motor.  Remember the leak is a leak, but the crank issue is terminal.
This site is HD's conscience well as up to the minute tech support source of info.  I think this pales the cam bearing issue.  I had a 2000 and never had the issue in the 30K miles I rode it.  And the MOCO actually sent letters and covered the part for 50K miles.  We haven't got squat.

[spydglide]

 I think this pales the cam bearing issue.  I had a 2000 and never had the issue in the 30K miles I rode it.  And the MOCO actually sent letters and covered the part for 50K miles.  We haven't got squat.

Well, now that I've got 52K miles on mine, I guess I'm 'on my own', huh?    spyder

[grc]

................................... If you look in the past. It took the MOCO 6 years or better to come up with a fix for the cam tensioners. We ( or some of us ) bitched, moaned and complained. ................................................
Be Safe

THE DAWG

Dawg, the chain tensioner issue illustrates exactly why I have no faith in H-D doing the right thing with the 110's.  The original TC cam drive was seriously flawed, both from a premature wear and a timing variation perspective.  The problems surfaced early in the 7 year life of that original design, and even though H-D knew a large percentage of tensioners were failing, with some doing major damage in the process, they never implemented a service program to repair them at MoCo expense, nor did they even add a warning to the maintenance schedule to have them checked at specific mileage intervals. Failure to officially acknowledge a problem means the problem doesn't exist, at least in Milwaukee.    

Jerry

[DCFIREMANN]

It's does a lot of good to know there is a new version of gasket so your dealer doesn't install the known bad ones.  It's also nice to update the dealer about liner issues, crank runout issues.  If this site did not exist, I would not have known there was a known problem, others would be buying more of these, I would not not have known to have the crank checked which led to a new motor.  Remember the leak is a leak, but the crank issue is terminal.
This site is HD's conscience well as up to the minute tech support source of info.  I think this pales the cam bearing issue.  I had a 2000 and never had the issue in the 30K miles I rode it.  And the MOCO actually sent letters and covered the part for 50K miles.  We haven't got squat.

You can't have squat if they don't have a fix. Why would they give you something they don't have?? The gasket change is just a band aid till a solution is found.

The crank isssue is something entirely different. THAT IS A PROBLEM THEY CAN SOLVE!!!!!! But they problem exsists because they tried to save money in engine assenbly labor. That problem is BS!!!!! I had it also. I choose not to come on here and bitch. I had it fixed and am very happy with it now.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

Dawg, the chain tensioner issue illustrates exactly why I have no faith in H-D doing the right thing with the 110's. The original TC cam drive was seriously flawed, both from a premature wear and a timing variation perspective.  The problems surfaced early in the 7 year life of that original design, and even though H-D knew a large percentage of tensioners were failing, with some doing major damage in the process, they never implemented a service program to repair them at MoCo expense, nor did they even add a warning to the maintenance schedule to have them checked at specific mileage intervals. Failure to officially acknowledge a problem means the problem doesn't exist, at least in Milwaukee.    

Jerry

Jerry I agree. I went to a gear drive at 10k. I would have done it anyway as I was changing cams. But the fact is I would of had to of done something to save my engine.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[DCFIREMANN]

Well, now that I've got 52K miles on mine, I guess I'm 'on my own', huh?    spyder

Damn Spy I never thought that was a bad place to be!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[AXIL]

OK,OK, alright !  I made a statement that I believe in and I made a mistake making it personal.  For that I sincerely apologise.  And for that I was ridiculed.and for that it was said that I was a newbie and should not speak up and was also threaten with the 2nd amendment. I bet I have starred down more weapons then you have. I still stand with keeping it in one thread .thats my Frost amendment rights, and i still apologize for getting personal.

[SPIDERMAN]

ok,ok ,alright !  i made a statement that i believe in and i made a mistake making it personal.  for that i sincerely apologise.  and for that i was ridiculed.  and for that it was said  that i was a newbe and should not speak up and was also threaten with the 2nd amendment. i bet i have starred down more weapons then you have.  i still stand with keeping it in one thread .thats my frist amendment rights, and i still apologise for gittin personal.

AXIL
     1st off, your not a newbie anymore, so our way of welcoming you to junior member status is to pick on you. Next, unless you say something personally offensive to someone NEVER apologize for your opinion. It's your right. DAWG didn't get his nickname from being bashful but he's a good dude and cool, so let it run off like water on a duck ok ?  And by the way if I missed your entrance to our great site when you joined awhile back. WELCOME

B B

[skreminegul07]

ok,ok ,alright !  i made a statement that i believe in and i made a mistake making it personal.  for that i sincerely apologise.  and for that i was ridiculed.  and for that it was said  that i was a newbe and should not speak up and was also threaten with the 2nd amendment. i bet i have starred down more weapons then you have.  i still stand with keeping it in one thread .thats my frist amendment rights, and i still apologise for gittin personal.

Welcome, Axil.  You have to realize that some of us are a bit sensitive as owners of this fiasco.  We have missed vacations, broken down on the road, etc.  As a matter of fact, last year, a few of us asked for a separate Topic heading for the 110 motor issues and were denied.  Read what you want, contribute what you can but please don't add to the stress this has caused many of our members. 
Thanks 

[Hugh Janis]

tough crowd here.  I have a 110 and am thinking it might be any day now.  It won't cost me any sleep when it breaks.  It's only parts.  I will, however, come here 1st and look at EVERY post in the TC section getting the best information I can on dealing with the MoCo on how to get it fixed.  That gives me even more confidence in riding it and in the information I get here.  PLEASE!  Whine away and keep them coming!

[AXIL]

Thank you Spiderman,  I did vent but I did get personal and I hope my apology is accepted. I have been friends with DC for almost 50 years,and your right , he's good man. may be I will meet you and some of the other people on this site this year. I am really looking forward to it.

[Fired00d]

thank you spiderman,  i did vent but i did get personal and i hope my apology is accepted. i have been friends with mike for almost 50 years.  and your right , he's good man. my be i will meet you and some of the other people on this site this year. look foward to it.

Damn Bro that's got to be worth an award.

Seriously Mike is alright for a "Truckie"

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[AXIL]

Hey guys thanks for chiming in, Dawg is at the top of my list of hero's, I have heard al ot and seen a lot. We were vollies at station 3 in Rockville Md. He's a stand up guy. I could tell you more but I'm a slow typer, and he might get embarrassed. You all have a good night and happy motoring