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[HogBreath]

That sucks! 

[Chief]

From those pictures, and the location of the puddle in front, my guess is that the flywheels scissored and took out the crank position sensor right by the outboard end of the oil filter. I've heard when that happens, it pukes oil everywhere which is a good description of what I see there. I've never heard of any gasket failure on the 110 that produced that much oil.

Please keep us updated on the cause and the prescribed fix.

[DCFIREMANN]

From those pictures, and the location of the puddle in front, my guess is that the flywheels scissored and took out the crank position sensor right by the outboard end of the oil filter. I've heard when that happens, it pukes oil everywhere which is a good description of what I see there. I've never heard of any gasket failure on the 110 that produced that much oil.

Please keep us updated on the cause and the prescribed fix.

Only one. GET RID OF IT!!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Banana man]

I don't much know about those 110 engines ( since I have a trouble free 103 in mine ),
but can you turn a 110 into a 113 and solve the problem?


                                           Mark

[Chief]

I don't much know about those 110 engines ( since I have a trouble free 103 in mine ),
but can you turn a 110 into a 113 and solve the problem?


                                           Mark

Not easily. The 110 has an o-ring groove milled into the edge of the spigot hole in the case. The 113 requires boring the case, but not enough to eat through all of the groove. HogBreath just ran into this last week planning to go to 113. I like the idea of the 113, but it looks like you need to start out with a 96" case to get there.

[FNGw/08SERK]

Supposed to take the SERK in the Monday after York for the 07B fix. This ride definitely makes me nervous. Any members here got a trailer that live between Syracuse and York that'll be willing to help a brother out   

[sportygordy]

From those pictures, and the location of the puddle in front, my guess is that the flywheels scissored and took out the crank position sensor right by the outboard end of the oil filter. I've heard when that happens, it pukes oil everywhere which is a good description of what I see there. I've never heard of any gasket failure on the 110 that produced that much oil.

Please keep us updated on the cause and the prescribed fix.

Chief, looks like you hit it, I have heard  of three of these at my shop since last August. In each case a new motor was installed. I can't belief the MoCo is getting away with this grap!!!!!! Blows me away!!!!!

[sadunbar]

Supposed to take the SERK in the Monday after York for the 07B fix. This ride definitely makes me nervous. Any members here got a trailer that live between Syracuse and York that'll be willing to help a brother out   

For what it is worth, I was just outside Toronto when mine starting leaking - and I put another 2000 miles on before returning home - and then another 500miles or so before I tore it down.  Other then a bit of a mess it was fine....  You'll be o.k.   

[ultrafxr]

Not easily. The 110 has an o-ring groove milled into the edge of the spigot hole in the case. The 113 requires boring the case, but not enough to eat through all of the groove. HogBreath just ran into this last week planning to go to 113. I like the idea of the 113, but it looks like you need to start out with a 96" case to get there.

Chuck, doesn't Axtel make a 'drop in' 110 cylinder that will fit the stock crankcases without modification?

Jerry

[Hoist!]

Chuck, doesn't Axtel make a 'drop in' 110 cylinder that will fit the stock crankcases without modification?

Jerry

Yep and it doesn't use an O-ring, it uses a base gasket. And the 113 can work fine the same way. The O-ring groove is only an issue on 110 cases IF YOU WANT TO RETAIN THE O-RING DESIGN. Then you can't go to a 113. But if you use the base gasket design, that's why God invented sealant!

HD says you can't believe everything you read on the internet. I say you can't believe everything you hear from HD! FTF & FTW!!!

Hoist!

[Twolanerider]

Yep and it doesn't use an O-ring, it uses a base gasket. And the 113 can work fine the same way. The O-ring groove is only an issue on 110 cases IF YOU WAT TO RETAIN THE O-RING DESIGN. Then you can't go to a 113. But if you use the base gasket design, that's why God invented sealant!

HD says you can't believe everything you read on the internet. I say you can't believe everything you hear from HD! FTF & FTW!!!

Hoist!

Axtell will even tell you it's ok to use belt and suspenders.  Base gasket and o-ring.  Their final cosmetics may leave a little to be desired.  From a purely functional perspective, however, these Axtell jugs seem to be stout parts indeed.  Scott is starting to run his now.  You've got a few miles on yours.  I've begun to collect a few on mine (though without the underlying 110 concerns that you've faced).  Nice to have big beefy parts....

[56FLE]

For what it is worth, I was just outside Toronto when mine starting leaking - and I put another 2000 miles on before returning home - and then another 500miles or so before I tore it down.  Other then a bit of a mess it was fine....  You'll be o.k.   

Thanks for the info, just what I wanted to hear, they leak but do continue to run. 

[sadunbar]

So this becomes the 2nd and 3rd motors I have heard of with the "latest, latest" head gaskets that have failed... I suppose with riding season beginning in more and more of the country that we will start hearing of more "latest" gasket failures....   

[MJZ]

Yep and it doesn't use an O-ring, it uses a base gasket. And the 113 can work fine the same way. The O-ring groove is only an issue on 110 cases IF YOU WANT TO RETAIN THE O-RING DESIGN. Then you can't go to a 113. But if you use the base gasket design, that's why God invented sealant!

HD says you can't believe everything you read on the internet. I say you can't believe everything you hear from HD! FTF & FTW!!!

Hoist!

Yep Howie, what you going to believe, what HD says or your lying eyes?

[sadunbar]

Axtell will even tell you it's ok to use belt and suspenders.  Base gasket and o-ring.  Their final cosmetics may leave a little to be desired.  From a purely functional perspective, however, these Axtell jugs seem to be stout parts indeed.  Scott is starting to run his now.  You've got a few miles on yours.  I've begun to collect a few on mine (though without the underlying 110 concerns that you've faced).  Nice to have big beefy parts....

Yep, as Don mentions, I am using both the o'ring and base gasket with the stock 110 cases and the Axtell cylinders.  I put another 150 miles on over the weekend.. I am still in break in mode - but so far so good...