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[delnel]

I have a 04 Screaming Eagle Electra Glide Is there a fuel filter in the tank and how ofter does it need to be serviced? Del Nel

[Chief]

I have a 04 Screaming Eagle Electra Glide Is there a fuel filter in the tank and how ofter does it need to be serviced? Del Nel

The fuel filter is nothing more than a sock over the pickup. It is not a trapping filter that gets plugged up and needs changing. If you're really good at siphoning, you can siphon any junk/gunk that is in the bottom of the tank. Otherwise, removing the tank to drain completely would be the other method to cleanse the tank.

[grc]

I have a 04 Screaming Eagle Electra Glide Is there a fuel filter in the tank and how ofter does it need to be serviced? Del Nel

The filter is on the fuel pickup in the tank, and changing it requires removal of the fuel pump assembly.  I believe the maintenance schedule calls for replacement at 20k miles.

Do-it-yourselfers can buy the replacement filter kit which includes a new hose and clamp.  I believe the part number is 61001-01.

Jerry

PS   As Chief noted, this isn't something that most folks would ever actually change.  It's the same sort of arrangement that you have on the fuel pickup in your automotive gas tank, and I'm willing to bet that 99.9% of the folks here have never changed one of those.  If it actually becomes clogged, you will know because it will reduce fuel pressure which will then affect the way the bike runs and it will set a trouble code.

[hdbrad03]

The filter is a 25,000 mile change out. You will need the 61001-01 kit plus another 10222 clamp. Also you will need the special clamp pliers to secure the stainless steel clamps. The hose is a little tough getting it over the fittings. I have found that warming the hose with a hair drier on low helps. Also may need to replace the cover gasket. All of the screws that hold the cover on have seals don't loose them. It's not hard just take your time.

 
Brad

[Chief]

I would caution you that the toughest part about the whole job is getting than damn pump/float assembly out of the tank the first time. The instructions on how to exercise the pivot hinge is very confusing and takes a bit of practice. However, once you get it out and see how the hinge works, it all makes sense. Too bad you have to struggle so much getting it out the first time before you reach that "Ah-Ha" moment.

[delnel]

Thanks My local dealer is wanting me to do their 20K service. The fuel filter is about the only thing I haven't done already. DelNel

[Boatman]

Not being smart but I will change mine if/when the fuel pump lets me down.  I just hope the pump is better than the 87-2000 GM pumps.   We've changed a boat load of those in Chevy trucks.

[Fired00d]

Not being smart but I will change mine if/when the fuel pump lets me down.  I just hope the pump is better than the 87-2000 GM pumps.   We've changed a boat load of those in Chevy trucks.

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Since you mention this and I have a '00 Yukon I had heard about this problem, and was told by a mechanic that part of this problem could be attributed to running the tank low on fuel. It was explained to me the fuel pump sits in the tank and when its submerged more in the fuel that helps in keeping the pump from overheating and working harder to pick up fuel which was felt to be part of the failure problem. Is there any truth to that?

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Boatman]

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Since you mention this and I have a '00 Yukon I had heard about this problem, and was told by a mechanic that part of this problem could be attributed to running the tank low on fuel. It was explained to me the fuel pump sits in the tank and when its submerged more in the fuel that helps in keeping the pump from overheating and working harder to pick up fuel which was felt to be part of the failure problem. Is there any truth to that?

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

We've been told that making a habit of running the tank to empty each time can overheat the pump as the cool gas helps cool the running fuel pump.  On a Ford or GM product, it is also good to change the in line frame mounted fuel filter  every 25K or so..   Most Dodge's just rely on the strainer in the tank.  What's odd is that a frame mounted fuel filter will be plugged up so you can't blow thru it but the strainer in the tank appears ok..  The strainer is just designed to trap the larger stuff.

[Boatman]

Gary-

If you ever need a fuel pump, get a genuine Delphi pump (sold thru GM dealers and even NAPA)..  These other cheap aftermarket pumps we won't install anymore as they either fail under warranty or just outside of warranty.

[Fired00d]

We've been told that making a habit of running the tank to empty each time can overheat the pump as the cool gas helps cool the running fuel pump.  On a Ford or GM product, it is also good to change the in line frame mounted fuel filter  every 25K or so..   Most Dodge's just rely on the strainer in the tank.  What's odd is that a frame mounted fuel filter will be plugged up so you can't blow thru it but the strainer in the tank appears ok..  The strainer is just designed to trap the larger stuff.

Gary-

If you ever need a fuel pump, get a genuine Delphi pump (sold thru GM dealers and even NAPA)..  These other cheap aftermarket pumps we won't install anymore as they either fail under warranty or just outside of warranty.

Thanks for that information. So far I've been following that tip I got and haven't had any problem. I had a friend that had a '99 Yukon and he went thru several fuel pumps, but he was one that would constantly run his tank low.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[grc]

We've been told that making a habit of running the tank to empty each time can overheat the pump as the cool gas helps cool the running fuel pump.  On a Ford or GM product, it is also good to change the in line frame mounted fuel filter  every 25K or so..   Most Dodge's just rely on the strainer in the tank.  What's odd is that a frame mounted fuel filter will be plugged up so you can't blow thru it but the strainer in the tank appears ok..  The strainer is just designed to trap the larger stuff.

    The sock on the pump intake is really there to protect the pump itself from relatively large particles, and doesn't do much to protect the injectors from smaller particles.  If you want to make sure the fuel is as clean as possible going to the injectors, a second much finer filter is necessary.  As noted above, many auto companies install a real filter in the fuel line after the pump.  You can do that on your Harley by splicing an aftermarket filter into the fuel line; just be careful to buy one designed to work with pressurized fuel and make sure it's secured properly.  Gasoline leaking in the vicinity of the hot rear cylinder just below your "goodies" is something you will most likely want to avoid.

Jerry

Edit    I don't know where my brain was, but for some reason I forgot that the EFI bikes already have a real filter (not the sock) located in the tank.  That is the filter that gets changed, not the strainer on the pickup.  Sorry for the bogus info, and thanks to 2lane and hd-dude for setting the issue straight.

[Chief]

   The sock on the pump intake is really there to protect the pump itself from relatively large particles, and doesn't do much to protect the injectors from smaller particles.  If you want to make sure the fuel is as clean as possible going to the injectors, a second much finer filter is necessary.  As noted above, many auto companies install a real filter in the fuel line after the pump.  You can do that on your Harley by splicing an aftermarket filter into the fuel line; just be careful to buy one designed to work with pressurized fuel and make sure it's secured properly.  Gasoline leaking in the vicinity of the hot rear cylinder just below your "goodies" is something you will most likely want to avoid.

Jerry

What about installing a canister filter inside the tank?

[hd-dude]

The filter is a 25,000 mile change out. You will need the 61001-01 kit plus another 10222 clamp. Also you will need the special clamp pliers to secure the stainless steel clamps. The hose is a little tough getting it over the fittings. I have found that warming the hose with a hair drier on low helps. Also may need to replace the cover gasket. All of the screws that hold the cover on have seals don't loose them. It's not hard just take your time.

 
Brad

This is correct info. The filter does need to be changed and it is not the "sock" over the pickup at the bottom of the tank. Just as important is the plastic fuel line inside the tank. i would say that about 50% of the time when I change the filter there are pin holes in the line. This leads to less fuel pressure at the injector which can and will change your fuel delivery (mapping)

[Twolanerider]

This is correct info. The filter does need to be changed and it is not the "sock" over the pickup at the bottom of the tank. Just as important is the plastic fuel line inside the tank. i would say that about 50% of the time when I change the filter there are pin holes in the line. This leads to less fuel pressure at the injector which can and will change your fuel delivery (mapping)

For illustration; here's the filter.  I keep one in the spare parts drawer.  Though I don't change them on a fixed schedule if I start getting a hint of a filter problem or leaky line I want it at hand.