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BigR55

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Brass Monkeys
« on: June 19, 2008, 04:07:16 PM »


It was necessary to keep a good supply of cannon balls near the cannon on old war ships. But how to prevent them from rolling about the deck was the problem. The best storage method devised was to stack them as a square based pyramid, with one ball on top, resting on four, resting on nine, which rested on sixteen. Thus, a supply of 30 cannon balls could be stacked in a small area right next to the cannon. 

For all you Navy history guys, some more grist for the mill.  There was only one problem -- how to prevent the bottom layer from sliding/rolling from under the others. The solution was a metal plate with 1 6 round indentations, called a Monkey. But if this plate were made of iron, the iron balls would quickly rust to it. The solution to the rusting problem was to make Brass Monkeys.

Few landlubbers realize that brass contracts much more and much faster than iron when chilled. Consequently, when the temperature dropped too far, the brass indentations would shrink so much that the iron cannon balls would come right off the monkey. Thus, it was quite literally, cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.
 
And all this time, you thought that was a vulgar expression, didn't you? You must send this fabulous bit of historical knowledge to at least a few unsuspecting friends   :D
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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 07:27:17 PM »

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SPIDERMAN

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 07:35:05 PM »

I have spent my entire life working around ships. First as deckhand on the local ferry in Portland Maine, then as a mechant seaman deckhand on a supertanker and then as an apprentice fabricator/shipfitter, draftsman, designer. engineer and finally my present position as Homeport Representative for Bath Iron Works Corp covering 12 DDG-51 Class and 7 FFG-7 Class surface combatants here in San Diego. 30 years or so around ships of all manner and type and never ever once heard this story.

Here here, extraordinary story !  Thanks !


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BigR55

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 11:01:30 PM »

OK, maybe the story was embelished a little. Still the Wikipedia referenced above contained this explanation:

Among the many old artifacts on board were a few triangular brass plates with substantial raised edges. I was told these were "Brass Monkeys" made to hold 3 (not 4) cannonballs. The fighting force of a frigate such as the Trincomalee were mainly Marines and such ships carried only a small number of guns and a small crew of seamen. Unlike larger ships, the crew of a frigate did not include young lads who would act as powder or shot monkeys. Shot was kept on the deck alongside the cannon.
In cold weather, waves and sea spray would wash over the flat open deck. Ice would form on the brass monkey, The balls would freeze ON to it. In those conditions it would be cold enough to "Freeze the balls ON a brass monkey".

At any rate, it was cold, there were cannon balls, the water froze and there was a plate made of brass. :)
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Sean M Cary

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 01:23:40 PM »

I keep hearing the Beastie Boys in my head...

Sean
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BigR55

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 02:34:48 PM »

I keep hearing the Beastie Boys in my head...

Sean

 ??? Went over my head!
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Sean M Cary

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 03:03:35 PM »

??? Went over my head!

They have a song...  Brass mokey...that funky monkey, brass monkey...

Anyway

Sean
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BigR55

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 11:07:06 PM »

Oh! ::)
Don't think I have that one.
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SPIDERMAN

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 02:07:45 PM »

They have a song...  Brass mokey...that funky monkey, brass monkey...

Anyway

Sean

Hmmmmmmmmmmm This seems as good a time as any to toss out my  bit of monkey wisdom


A smart monkey is a monkey who knows not to monkey with another monkey's monkey

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BigR55

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Re: Brass Monkeys
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 10:23:20 PM »

Take one o know one! :D
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