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[Coolbreeze]

Okay, I'm not illiterate, but I am confused...
Item 1-  got a buddy, he's a cop, and they fill their primaries with as much fluid as they can get in them, 'cause harley says that's the way to do it....
Item 2-  got the manual, it's from harley, and it says "don't overfill, just fill to the bottom of the lowest clutch spring with the bike level..."

Opinions?  advise? logic?   [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[HUBBARD]

Yeah, 'er 'uh, Coolbreeze,
 1 1/2 quarts is the amount of Primary Fluid I use, and have for years.  I check shoes and adjustment every 1500 miles, and change out Primary Fluid every third Engine Oil Change, which equates to 4500 miles.  Later--HUBBARD

[110tHunDer]

When DJW comes along, he'll concur with what your officer-friend has told you.  The reason being that the additional fluid provides extra cooling to the clutch and chain for the kind of use the police subject the bikes to.  I believe he asked one of the H-D techs why they don't recommend doing for all bikes but they were somewhat elusive in their answer.

[shovelhead71]

newer bikes  - to bottom of the clutch spring anymore will make your clutch slip bad - earlier bikes  - fill em till the oil pukes out the derby cover hole

[Dr. Evil]

Cool,

...I'd go with Hubbard on this.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] I use 1 1/2 quarts of fluid in my personal bikes and my work bike.  That's per the head technician of HD's corporate Police service and sales division.   [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

He really couldn't give me a straight answer as to why HD recommends less for civilian bikes... he was almost evasive about it.   And yes, they get filled to the top, and then some, for competition use.  So I can't imagine that the extra 1/2 quart is gonna hurt anything.  I've NEVER seen a police bike go out of service for too much primary fluid.  Never seen a leak or an issue.  Use extra... it can ONLY help.  [smiley=beerchug.gif]

[Dr. Evil]

newer bikes  - to bottom of the clutch spring anymore will make your clutch slip bad - earlier bikes  - fill em till the oil pukes out the derby cover hole

[smiley=nixweiss.gif] Shovel, I never question another man's wisdom (unless he trys to sell me a HD "Factory" Chopper from NY) ...but we overfill all the police bikes... and never had a problem.  Do you have first hand knowledge of something different?  I'd appreciate any info you have.  I've never had or seen a problem.  All my friends run 1/2 qt. more than HD recommends... and they're all happy with it.  [smiley=beerchug.gif]

[Coolbreeze]

Sounds like the consensus is...  I should run it high, ('bout a quart and a half), except for one dissention who states I may slip if I over fill....   So, I'll go with the quart and a half, and if it slips instead of yanking the front tire up in the air, I'll drain some off...   Next question is...   how do I get that much more in when all I have to hold the bike up while I tip it over to the right a LOOOONG ways, are little tiny blonde things...   Hmmm, I'm gonna be working this one over for a beer or two...  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Thanks guys!  

I know I know,  [smiley=worthless.gif]

so here's a picture of my bike stands...

[shovelhead71]

COOLBREEZE - YOU DA MAN - it is awesome to see those kids on your lap and you should be very proud
EVIL - we need to meet sometime - you guys are like long lost brothers - I have seen the extreme usage of the police vehicles and my understanding is that clutch slippage from overfill - severe duty of your police vehicles is understandable and that use does not come close to what the average person would put that bike thru - so therefore if it slips in normal bikes why not the police bikes - got me bro - but I will find a tech answer for this very good question tomorrow night - still unpacking from a run to Mich over the weekend and I want to go enjoy a handfull of grandkids like COOLBREEZE is doing.

[shovelhead71]

oil fill level of primary and caution of overfilling - this does not matter pertaining to police vehicles or not - we perform many services on police vehicles and this is the recommended fill level

[shovelhead71]

another try

[tony1968]

Back in the day we used to put type F in the primary. Worked fine. I have also put 20w50 and primary chaincase lube. Never put more than a qt in though. It doesnt get any easier.  One bottle!   KISS

[flhrsei2_gret's_is for sale]

... am curious about the "spray" that's always 'been ok" with HD...

Haven't HD engineers in the design offices figured out the oil pump situation, allowing or not allowing excess oil to find its way "out"

I know, I know... let's assume that the HD design engineers don't mind "spray", because it's the old school thinking, a way of lub'ng the chain? Hmmmm,.....!?!?!?