Okay, since the Glare folks are still here, maybe they will address my completely legitimate questions. Let's set the stage:
...most importantly the paint is UV protected which other products will not do. This is important because once the UV damages the paint underneath the Clear Coat your paint is gone!
Perry Stevens
Chemical Division
Glare Products
it works, and the fact that it comes with a 5 warranty of protection and shine, ...Glare, it contains NO acrylic ( makes paint crack), polymers or synthetics (plastics), or carnuba ( which actually eats through clearcoat).
So according to Glare folks, Glare eliminates UV damage which destroys the paint under the clear coat, and Glare contains no ingredients that conventional waxes do, that destroy the paint and clear coat.
Now, my personal experience scenario:
Last January I traded in my 1997 Lexus. 11 years of weather, washing, waxing, sun, ice, dew, some salt spray, some road salt, an occasional frisbee bounce, somebody sitting on the fender, leaning against it, all the elements of wear (I have two kids at home if that tells you anything). I waxed it periodically with Meguiar's but I was far from anal. When I traded it the paint still looked fantastic, and not one drop of Glare had ever touched it. Now my question to Glare is this: Why should I spend a lot more money on something that takes a lot longer to apply, when in my experience, NOT using it worked out just fine? Let's say it does do something that other waxes don't. How long would I have to keep the car to realize that?
I've already described my experience with Glare in the other thread. All that work and money and I was left wondering why I bothered? It wasn't any shinier than conventional waxes and seemed to wash off at the first touch of clean water and a soft sponge.
My bike, on the other hand, is hardly exposed to anything like the elements I described above on my car. It sits in a garage, under a cover, never sits outside, never ridden in rain, rinsed off if ever a speck of dirt gets on it. I imagine this is fairly typical of HD owners. So when would the typical bike owner get the benefit of the supposed increased durability and paint protection? How long under those ideal conditions would it take for Glare usage to be justified?
Not trying to be a hard case, but I need to see some justification for the expense and effort that applies in the real world.
And then:
I think the whole 5 year warranty is it what truly inspires confidence in a product, that and I don't have to worry about reapplying product every other month to achieve shine.
But I just traded a car that saw no Glare after 11 years and the paint looked great. IMO, conventional treatment far outlasted your 5 year warranty. And I didn't apply conventional wax any where near once a month. More like every nine months to a year.
And I've already pointed out that most bike owners pamper their machines. These bikes don't see harsh weather or day in and day out outside weather exposure.
So I repeat: For how long, and how often, according to you, would a person have to use conventional wax to destroy their paint and clear coat? Using conventional wax products only periodically, How long would it take for UV rays to destroy the paint under the clear coat? Hint--it must be a lot longer than 11 years in all weather exposure conditions. A heck of a lot longer for a bike kept garaged, under a cover, and never ridden in much of any weather.
[edit to add] I would add that I would expect answers to my questions to be specific. Say, '30 conventional wax jobs over five years and your clear coat is gone'. Or 'UV will destroy paint uner conventional wax in 3 years'. Something like that. I keep hearing about all these lab tests, so certainly you have this information. Don't just tell me that my 11 year old car would have looked better if I had used Glare.
[second edit] I just went out to the garage and looked at my bottle of Meguiar's. It clearly states that it provides protection againist UV rays. You say:
... and most importantly the paint is UV protected which other products will not do.
So are you saying that Meguiar's is making false claims?
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