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[Screamin_Beagle]

Okay,
   Here we go.  As some of you know,  I have a couple of boxers that are the balls (even though they don't have 'em anymore), one Faun one brindle.  The faun (Dutch) is just a big lump of slobbery love....all the time.  The Brindle (Mylo) has become a real pain in the a$$.  Now, I have to preface this by telling you that both dogs are lucky as hell to be alive in the first place.......I figure that between the two,  they've done at least $50K work of damage to the inside as well as the outside of my home, ranging from eaten carpets to destroyed landscaping.  Well to make a long story short,  I decided to have some of the landscaping that they've destroyed in the back yard replaced.  This time with plants that can defend themselves against the onslaught of the boxer twins, namely palm trees (Lot's of them..........mostly ones with GIANT sharp barbs at the bases). Now I know what some of you are thinking, but I figure they'll only mess with them once!!!  The problem arose when the landscapers were installing these trees.  It seems that all the jack hammering that took place to dig the holes (I live in San Diego........there is no dirt here,  only decomposed granite) must have "stressed little Mylo out" (according to my wife Sue), and the little prick figured out how to escape his dog run.  Now the fence is about 6 feet tall, how the little bastard gets over that is beyond me,  but he gets out, and now that he knows how,  we can't keep him in (stress or not).  I've added an inward facing section of fence (like a prison yard), son-of-a-bitch figured out how to pull that down and escaped. I've thought about electric fences but I don't want to kill him either.  Sue wants to hire a doggie psychriatrist and get the poor little guy some mental help (you can guess what I had to say about that.......a .40 cal round is a lot less expensive).  Anyone have any ideas??


_Beags

[sadunbar]

Okay,
   Here we go.  As some of you know,  I have a couple of boxers that are the balls (even though they don't have 'em anymore), one Faun one brindle.  The faun (Dutch) is just a big lump of slobbery love....all the time.  The Brindle (Mylo) has become a real pain in the a$$.  Now, I have to preface this by telling you that both dogs are lucky as hell to be alive in the first place.......I figure that between the two,  they've done at least $50K work of damage to the inside as well as the outside of my home, ranging from eaten carpets to destroyed landscaping.  Well to make a long story short,  I decided to have some of the landscaping that they've destroyed in the back yard replaced.  This time with plants that can defend themselves against the onslaught of the boxer twins, namely palm trees (Lot's of them..........mostly ones with GIANT sharp barbs at the bases). Now I know what some of you are thinking, but I figure they'll only mess with them once!!!  The problem arose when the landscapers were installing these trees.  It seems that all the jack hammering that took place to dig the holes (I live in San Diego........there is no dirt here,  only decomposed granite) must have "stressed little Mylo out" (according to my wife Sue), and the little prick figured out how to escape his dog run.  Now the fence is about 6 feet tall, how the little bastard gets over that is beyond me,  but he gets out, and now that he knows how,  we can't keep him in (stress or not).  I've added an inward facing section of fence (like a prison yard), son-of-a-bitch figured out how to pull that down and escaped. I've thought about electric fences but I don't want to kill him either.  Sue wants to hire a doggie psychriatrist and get the poor little guy some mental help (you can guess what I had to say about that.......a .40 cal round is a lot less expensive).  Anyone have any ideas??


_Beags

What kind of fence do you have.  The first Akita we had was an escape specialist.  At first we thought he was climbing over the top of the fence, but later found out how he actually was getting out.  One small section of the fence was chain link.  He would put his big head against the fence and push.  The chain would bend outward until he could crawl under it while pushing.  Couldn't believe it.  So, I had to string a cable thru the bottom of the fence and tension it with a turnbuckle until the fence was stronger then dog...

[Screamin_Beagle]

The fence is wood,  and Houdini is going over the top.  There are no holes, loose spots or any places he could get around.  No possible way to get under....the ground here is like solid rock.  He's going over for sure.  What get's me is that he never did it before.  We've had him almost 4 years,  and until now.....he's been good.  I just don't want him to get hit by a car,  or do any damage to someone else's property.

[sadunbar]

The fence is wood,  and Houdini is going over the top.  There are no holes, loose spots or any places he could get around.  No possible way to get under....the ground here is like solid rock.  He's going over for sure.  What get's me is that he never did it before.  We've had him almost 4 years,  and until now.....he's been good.  I just don't want him to get hit by a car,  or do any damage to someone else's property.

I suppose he could swim a moat?   

[Keithincda]

How much exercise do they get? I have an Australian Shephard/Red Heeler mix that is high, high energy. She used to scale a 4 ft chain link fence with an additional 3 feet of welded wire added to the top. She wouldn't go any where except around to the front door to let me know she made it out...cute little bitch...
She was a rescue dog (we rescued her from the pound) and we knew she'd have some separation anxiety as she had been brought back twice by previous adopters, we ended up getting her a pal (rescued another Besenji/Red Heeler mix) and that helped a little but he was too heavy to climb the fence so she'd still do it and stand on the other side egging him to try it.
Finally got to the pint where they had so much energy I started walking them about 2 miles twice a a day once in the AM before work and once at the end of the day. Come rain shine or in some case snow we walk twice a day. It lets them release their energy and the behavior problems corrected themselves within a week. I benefit from it too and they love it....  

[FR8TRN]

Sounds like your dog run needs a chain link roof to it.....

[Sean M Cary]

dog whisperer?

[porthole]

dog whisperer?

You only see the successful ones on that show..............

Two things I would consider.
1st, do you have a higher end digital camera? Program to take a picture every 15-30 seconds so you can see what he is doing.

Next is an all chain link dog run, including the roof.

Was the only way to keep my German Shorthair in once she found opt how to scale a 7' fence! (was 3', then 6' then 7)

[Kodiak]

Put a Shock Collar on them and when you catch it in the act give them a zap. They make them now where you can set the strength of the shock.Doesn't take much. They learn real quick not to dig or jump a fence.

[Screamin_Beagle]

All,
    They get plenty of play time.  Suzy takes them for  4-5 mile walk EVERY FREAKIN' NIGHT.......EVEN WHEN I MAKE IT HOME FOR CHANGE (from travel,  not my other girlfriends house....I wish). They go to the beach at least once each weekend (for a long swim......walk.....run.....about 3 hours, you do the math). I don't know what to do with the little guy.  He's independant as hell,  might have some cat in him......but still lovable. I just ordered some rollers for the fence from some outfit.....if these don't work,  he get's the S&W .40cal.


_Beags

[Robmay]

Sounds like your dog run needs a chain link roof to it.....

+1 Thats what I was thinking.

[Screamin_Beagle]

No can do......I live in a community that has HOA (Home Owners A$$holes).  I can't put up chain link above 6'........I'm 6'3" with a shed in there.....I ain't ducking.


_Beags

[Robmay]

No can do......I live in a community that has HOA (Home Owners A$$holes).  I can't put up chain link above 6'........I'm 6'3" with a shed in there.....I ain't ducking.


_Beags

Either duck or.....

[twincam]

electric wire.....won't kill them, they will only try it once..........as far as digging goes, put some of there chit where they dig, they won't dig in there own chit. chewing things, get something recently destroyed, duct tape it into there mouths leave it for a couple of hours, same principle as putting a nice piece of steak in your mouth and chewing it and not swallowing, after a while, you won't want to swallow it. because its funcky. all of these tips are from Kolers Guard dog training book. have tried all of them and they work.
 good luck Randy

[RJ749]

The other day Cindy was walking out two boxers and came upon the new house down the street, WOOF cam a big bark, she looked and saw two wirehaired somethin's and a Mastiff.

Holy Crap, she thought but nothing, the dogs just stayed down the driveway.

Well with all the new houses and dogs everywhere along with our concern that these two would chase an elk or deer or coyote or whatever the hell else gave them an excuse to take off she decided to cal the invisible fence guys.

When she gives them our address they say, oh your neighbors just installed one.  No chit, the mastiff, yup, invisible fence.

So we invite the mastiff's parents over for a get to know you toddy and they swear by it.  They even leave the dogs in the yard and go shopping without a regular fence. 

We install it.  We swear by it.

Couple of training sessions and our dogs now don't go within 10 feet of the perimeter we set.  What a stress releaver.

Anyway, for my dough, get an invisible fence.  They come out and show you where you can set it up etc.  Sounds like you could make one perimiter the kennel and you won't have a climber anymore.

By the way, Cindy did the dog trainer deal, we thought we knew a lot about boxers (dogs in general) we learned a lot and our Harley is a changed dog with proper training.

But the little peckerhead did just get into the pantry (which is in their room when we're gone, trashed a bunch of stuff because Cindy didn't make sure it was locked) Houdini sob anyway, we got one too.

They look so innocent.............