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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2008, 11:05:36 PM »
Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 11, 2008, 05:33:20 PM
Home grown 131 :o !



Close......  Formula and bore are correct.  Stroke?  My understanding is Axtell specs cylinders full length to include spigot skirt.  4.917" would be awful hard on some rings and wipers.  No? 
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2008, 11:26:07 PM »
Quote from: HML on October 11, 2008, 11:05:36 PM
Close......  Formula and bore are correct.  Stroke?  My understanding is Axtell specs cylinders full length to include spigot skirt.  4.917" would be awful hard on some rings and wipers.  No? 

Did the math playing the numbers as bore and stroke.  4 1/4 x 4.917 would be 131.4.  Even with some weird rods don't think you get that stroke in a TC though.  Jim's does their 131 by going 4.625 x 4.5.  So what are ya building big boy?

By the way, are you satisfied you know the original point of failure from the first build?  Or was it one of those "something just happened" things?
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2008, 11:40:35 PM »
Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 11, 2008, 11:26:07 PM
Did the math playing the numbers as bore and stroke.  4 1/4 x 4.917 would be 131.4.  Even with some weird rods don't think you get that stroke in a TC though.  Jim's does their 131 by going 4.625 x 4.5.  So what are ya building big boy?

4.125"=4 1/8", not 4 1/4".  CID=NOC*0.7854*Bore^2*Stroke, so 2*0.7854*4.125^2*4.375=116.935628906 inch^3.  Again......spigot skirts.  A stroke that long (<4.5) in a TC makes me cringe.  "I" am building an engine building bill.  Rod, on the other hand, is building an engine.   :2vrolijk_21:

Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 11, 2008, 11:26:07 PM
By the way, are you satisfied you know the original point of failure from the first build?

Yes   :2vrolijk_21:

Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 11, 2008, 11:26:07 PM
Or was it one of those "something just happened" things?

Yes   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2008, 01:09:25 AM »
Quote from: HML on October 11, 2008, 11:40:35 PM

4.125"=4 1/8", not 4 1/4". 



Ahhh, brain fart.  Or didn't have my glasses on then.  Who knows :huepfenlol2: ?


Too bad it crapped out.  Even more so that it wasn't something simple.  Before it started failing you'd seemed generally pleased with how it was running again.
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2008, 07:22:57 AM »
Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 12, 2008, 01:09:25 AM

Ahhh, brain fart.  Or didn't have my glasses on then.  Who knows :huepfenlol2: ? 

No worries.  Interesting:  if the jugs were 4 1/4", and the stroke actually was 4.917, that would yield a CID of 139 and change.   :o

Quote from: TwoLaneRider on October 12, 2008, 01:09:25 AM
Too bad it crapped out.  Even more so that it wasn't something simple.  Before it started failing you'd seemed generally pleased with how it was running again.

Well, defecation occurs.  Simply my rotation under the privy this time.  As you know, folks who've been riding these things for "awhile" will eventually find themselves under the crapper.
Generally, yessir, I was content with the bike, but not pleased.  It was like dating a very pretty, yet high maintenance.............prude.  If finessed......her way.......she'd bang all night long, but the second you try to get rough with her, she got all bitchy.
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2008, 08:18:41 PM »
New HD crank came in.  It had those "peckerhead" tapered rod ends.  Rod sent it back and ordered an S&S crank.  Anyone know the lead time on those?

Also, Baker OD6 arrived.  They now ship with the "new" Baker engine oil fill spout that has a screw-in dipstick.  How cool is THAT?   :2vrolijk_21:  All this time I was thinking we were gonna have to use a spacer.   :nervous:
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2008, 07:19:48 AM »
Can't wait to see this build complete. The S&S crank assembly is your better bet. Don't know about lead time though. What size are you building?

With Twolane reading and posting without his glasses on has me DIZZY!!!!!!

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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2008, 01:19:43 AM »
Quote from: DCFIREMANN on October 24, 2008, 07:19:48 AM
Can't wait to see this build complete. The S&S crank assembly is your better bet. Don't know about lead time though. What size are you building?

With Twolane reading and posting without his glasses on has me DIZZY!!!!!!

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Mike, you're gonna hate this.  We're going with Woods 408 cams.  I rode Rod's bike, and didn't find it noisy at all.........but the torque and power made the corners of my mouth meet behind my neck.   :smile:  And that 6th gear will be a welcome addition.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2008, 01:22:43 AM »
Quote from: DCFIREMANN on October 24, 2008, 07:19:48 AM
Can't wait to see this build complete. The S&S crank assembly is your better bet. Don't know about lead time though. What size are you building?

With Twolane reading and posting without his glasses on has me DIZZY!!!!!!

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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2008, 08:11:54 AM »
Quote from: HML on October 26, 2008, 01:19:43 AM
Mike, you're gonna hate this.  We're going with Woods 408 cams.   I rode Rod's bike, and didn't find it noisy at all.........but the torque and power made the corners of my mouth meet behind my neck.   :smile:  And that 6th gear will be a welcome addition.   :2vrolijk_21:

I am not against anything Bob Wood produces. His cams make some great power. Only problem I have ever ran into was the noise. I gave Axil a set for his 103 and he is making some really good power. He likes the power but again "THE NOISE".

Good luck with the build and keep us posted.

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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2008, 08:27:22 AM »
Quote from: DCFIREMANN on October 26, 2008, 08:11:54 AM
I am not against anything Bob Wood produces. His cams make some great power. Only problem I have ever ran into was the noise. I gave Axil a set for his 103 and he is making some really good power. He likes the power but again "THE NOISE".

Good luck with the build and keep us posted.

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I guess I must be tone deef in that frequency range...........either that, or I just like it so much that it ain't noise to me.  I dunno.  Heck, mine ain't even done yet, but from the few miles I logged on a 408 equipped bike, that thing was silky.
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2008, 11:55:22 AM »
Quote from: HML on October 26, 2008, 08:27:22 AM
I guess I must be tone deef in that frequency range...........either that, or I just like it so much that it ain't noise to me.  I dunno.  Heck, mine ain't even done yet, but from the few miles I logged on a 408 equipped bike, that thing was silky.

It's all in what you have to work with when you set them up
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #42 on: October 31, 2008, 10:54:29 PM »
New S&S crank came in today.  Going to check on Thump tomorrow.  Will give me an opportunity to really ride the Purple Haze down there and back.  Rod tells me the Baker OD6 and new oil spout have been installed.  Can't wait to see it.  Won't be long now.
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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #43 on: October 31, 2008, 10:59:05 PM »
Quote from: HML on October 31, 2008, 10:54:29 PM
New S&S crank came in today.  Going to check on Thump tomorrow.  Will give me an opportunity to really ride the Purple Haze down there and back.  Rod tells me the Baker OD6 and new oil spout have been installed.  Can't wait to see it.  Won't be long now.

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Re: Sluggish
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2008, 11:04:06 PM »
Quote from: Silver-Black on October 31, 2008, 10:59:05 PM
Take the camera!

 

Battery's charging.   :2vrolijk_21:
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