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[Hoist!]

Actually yes. My friends the Reynolds family that owns Big Moose H-D and Augusta H-D tells me they get reminded on a regular basis by the Maine State Police regarding Maine law on the subject. Since Maine has a vehicle inspection law, if a dealership loses it's Inspection Station license, they're screwed. If I can manage to pull off buying a new 09 SERG in Maine, it will retain the stock exhaust until I see how harda$$ the MSP is on this issue.

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Buncha commies up there huh! Can't even go 93 in peace anymore!!!

Hoist!

[Iglide]

One would hope that after 8,000 posts, somebody would have figured me out by now.



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Enough Said.... Now Let It Go!

[Jim Kerr]

Actually yes. My friends the Reynolds family that owns Big Moose H-D and Augusta H-D tells me they get reminded on a regular basis by the Maine State Police regarding Maine law on the subject. Since Maine has a vehicle inspection law, if a dealership loses it's Inspection Station license, they're screwed. If I can manage to pull off buying a new 09 SERG in Maine, it will retain the stock exhaust until I see how harda$$ the MSP is on this issue.

You are right about Maine.  They have a strict Motorcycle inspection program, but they do not test the actual emissions.  Their inspection criteria is designed to fail bikes that have illegal exhaust installed.  Items such as installing True Duals, straight pipes, running without baffles, etc. would be caught in a second.  I would bet many bikers install street legal slip-ons before an inspection and use something else afterwords.   

Here's a couple of links to read through:

This one has the inspection details for Motorcycle exhaust:
http://ubm-usa.org/PDF/Unit%203%20Page%209.pdf

This is the main page that has all 15 pages of the Maine Motorcycle Inspection requirements!
http://www.ubm-usa.org/inspection.html

FWIW, you can legitimately title a vehicle in another state, which circumvents the Maine state inspection laws.  You would then have to follow the laws of the state in which it is titled in.  There are companies like this one in Montana that enable you to title the vehicle in their state and get out of sales tax as well as emissions testing requirements: 

http://www.mtvehicles.com/

And before we get into the conspiracy thing again...Yes titling a vehicle in another state is legal!  A corporation/LLC/LLP/etc. is formed that owns it.  The corp is registered to do business in the state where the vehicle is registered and co's like Deer Creek handle all of the required paperwork. 

[SPIDERMAN]

Enough Said.... Now Let It Go!

Let what go ?

 Huh ??

Just posting away as usual. Do you do the above to Howie, d00d, and a 100 other members that have Sienfeld posts ?


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     Jim
          I bought a 97 Caddy Deville in super shape to leave in Maine. I am registering it in Maine to the address of the summer home on Sebago Lake because California says I have to bring it back here and have it smogged to register it even if it never sees CA. Maine on the other hand will allow a seasonal resident to register a vehicle. Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?

[Hoist!]

Let what go ?

 Huh ??

Just posting away as usual. Do you do the above to Howie, d00d, and a 100 other members that have Sienfeld posts ?


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PS
     Jim
          I bought a 97 Caddy Deville in super shape to leave in Maine. I am registering it in Maine to the address of the summer home on Sebago Lake because California says I have to bring it back here and have it smogged to register it even if it never sees CA. Maine on the other hand will allow a seasonal resident to register a vehicle. Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?

HeHe!!! i was wondering WTF he meant too!!! But I "just let it go!"

Hoist!

[Texas 103]

FTC!!! You guys are funny! Just cause you don't drill em out, doesn't mean ya ain't violating something with every set of pipes A/C and dyno tune ya'll have been doing for years!!! Now ya GAS about drilling cats?!! Funny stuff!!! FTC!!!

Hoist!

AMEN>>FTC...

[Jim Kerr]

Maine on the other hand will allow a seasonal resident to register a vehicle. Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?

Maine cannot enforce local inspection standards on out of state registered bikes.  Where the bike is titled determines emissions, inspection, taxes, etc.  States only have the power to prevent people from getting their new vehicle registration if they don't comply with inspection laws.  This is not an issue if you get you are titled in and get your license from another state. 

The only thing states can nail people on is use tax.  Use tax is imposed when a vehicle is primarily used in the state even though it is registered out of state.  The New England states are notorious for this since many New Yorkers have summer homes and keep vehicles up there.  You should check out the Mane Use and Sales tax laws before taking a vehicle into the state for long term use.  The fines can be outrageous (in some cases more than the bike costs).  FYI, many states have a 3-6 month out of state exemption.  If the vehicle is based out of state for the grace period you can the bring it into the state without paying the tax. 

[Twolanerider]

Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?

If it's a 49 state bike you wouldn't be able to register it in California Brian. At least not until it got 7500 miles on it.

[SPIDERMAN]

If it's a 49 state bike you wouldn't be able to register it in California Brian. At least not until it got 7500 miles on it.

Didn't think of that. So much for getting LD to Maine in the spring and the new bike out here next fall

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[LarryB]

well Jim, i have been following your antics for a bit now and I thank you for supplying the Knowledge. I too have an 09 FLTRSE3, but mine is the stardust/pewter model. My 2" fullsacs came yesterday and tonight we wrench. but my Q is if I don't drill the cats now can I do just as ez later. I got a big ride tomorrow and i don't want to start something I can't finish tonight.
Also, if, and when I core the cats out, what are the chances I'll need a fuel Management system? Pulled the plugs at 1200 and they looked great, but I want to change to NGK. my thoughts are cut the cats, run for 1k, then re-look at the plugs.
My reflectors are gone except for that one on the tail, I have also install a factory H-D CB module. the module fits nice, the wires, not so ez.
I am originally from Chicago, south side, but now Im in Tennessee. wanna buy a snow shovel and some rock salt?

[Jim Kerr]

well Jim, i have been following your antics for a bit now and I thank you for supplying the Knowledge. I too have an 09 FLTRSE3, but mine is the stardust/pewter model. My 2" fullsacs came yesterday and tonight we wrench. but my Q is if I don't drill the cats now can I do just as ez later. I got a big ride tomorrow and i don't want to start something I can't finish tonight.

You can drill the cat at any time.  I did my cat first and then the exhaust, but others have done it the other way.  Not a problem one way or the other.  Just adds a bit more work since you have to pull the right exhaust pipe twice. 

Also, if, and when I core the cats out, what are the chances I'll need a fuel Management system? Pulled the plugs at 1200 and they looked great, but I want to change to NGK. my thoughts are cut the cats, run for 1k, then re-look at the plugs.

The O2 sensor will cover you in closed loop mode when you make changes like this.  Closed loop is somewhere between 3000/4000 RPM and below.  I would not run it hard or do wide open throttle (WOT) until you have had some sort-of tuning done to the bike. 

I am originally from Chicago, south side, but now Im in Tennessee. wanna buy a snow shovel and some rock salt?

Chicago is great, but the winters not so great.  I need more than a shovel.  More like a big 4x4 with a plow! 

[Iglide]

Larry B,

After the cat drill, and with stock ECU settings, do not linger more than 5-10 min in idle. Even with the canned down load map from the SERT, my bike was way lean in idle rpm range. It is my understanding that idle is outside the closed loop mode and O2 sensor control. I let mine idle for 15-20 min and it foamed and boiled the oil in the crankcase. Temps can exceed 300 deg F. Don't lug it around below 2500 rpm, shift higher; in this cooler weather you will be OK as long as you use your common sense. With a good tune the engine idle can be corrected and the temps reduced by making the mix a little more rich.

[LarryB]

Well I decided to hold off just for a bit. I will do the baffles this week but am going to wait on the cats until I can schedule a SERT install & Dyno. way too much at risk if I damage it. I changed the plugs to a NGK, cooler one, say 5degrees to check on the lean issue. V&H sent me a custom map for a Fuelpak but these are tricks and you know, tricks are for kids. So I figure SE=SE.
Yesterday was beautiful for riding in TN, the sleeping beast is waiting to arise. 

[LarryB]

Stopped at a local dealership, old friend of mine named Bubba, how can you go wrong with that. He was drooling over my bike. End result was, do whatever you want, but after you drill out the cats bring it in for a super tuner and dyno. he said not to wait long as he has seen problems when people wait TILL they have problems, and then bring it in. He said the whole kit and kaboodle would be about 1k. And he is the only dealer in TN certified to do it so far.
But the Fullsacs are a GO this week.

[Jim Kerr]

Stopped at a local dealership, old friend of mine named Bubba, how can you go wrong with that. He was drooling over my bike. End result was, do whatever you want, but after you drill out the cats bring it in for a super tuner and dyno. he said not to wait long as he has seen problems when people wait TILL they have problems, and then bring it in. He said the whole kit and kaboodle would be about 1k. And he is the only dealer in TN certified to do it so far.
But the Fullsacs are a GO this week.

Bubba knows best!  He is right.  Best to do the SERT as soon as possible.  The bikes are engineered to run way too lean.  They need more fuel to stay cool and run properly.