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Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« on: October 20, 2008, 10:17:14 PM »



A large fire has gutted a Hells Angels gang bunker in a community about 90 kilometres northeast of Montreal.

The blaze broke out Saturday around 9:30 p.m. in Sorel-Tracy, police said.

It was one of three fires reported in the city overnight. In the early evening, a fire started in a mixed commercial and residential building. Two hours later, emergency crews were called to the blaze at the Hells Angels bunker.

Around 1 a.m. on Sunday, a garage was set on fire, police said. All the fires are considered suspicious, but Quebec provincial police spokeswoman Joyce Kemp said it's too early to confirm whether the three are linked.

No injuries were reported in any of the fires.

There are reports from witnesses that a vehicle rammed into the bunker, a two-storey garage-style building, just before the blaze began. Police later confirmed a truck was found in the wreckage.

Police said it's unlikely they'll be able to start their investigation before Monday because the ruins of the building were still smouldering.

They also said they're investigating whether there are connections between the Hells Angels bunker fire and an incident last week.

Provincial police in the Gaspé community of Mont-Joli intercepted a vehicle laden with 980 kilograms of TNT, allegedly stolen from a construction quarry.

In the same week, police searched an apartment in downtown Montreal where they found 200 kilograms of explosives. Police believe the three men arrested in connection with the raid have ties to biker gangs.
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Quebec bunker blaze raises spectre of biker war
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 10:18:43 PM »



Quebec police say they're looking for two suspects and a blue pick-up truck in connection with a weekend arson attack on a Hells Angels bunker in Sorel-Tracy.

Forensic experts combed through the bunker's charred remains Monday searching for clues in the attack, which destroyed the biker headquarters.

Investigators had to wait until Monday to start their work because the hollowed-out bunker smouldered for more than 24 hours after a tanker truck rammed into it.

The truck crashed into the garage-style building at high speed around 9:30 p.m. ET Saturday, according to authorities in the small town northeast of Montreal.

Eyewitnesses told authorities they saw a blue pickup truck shortly after the explosion, said provincial police spokesman Ronald McInnis.

"We think it is a getaway car," he said. "So, after the tanker truck goes into the bunker, they get away with that pickup."

The tanker truck used in the attack was stolen, but investigators haven't been able to determine whether it was carrying any explosive chemicals.

The fire was so intense that authorities ordered about 50 neighbours in the surrounding area to leave their homes.

No one was hurt in the fire, but the two-storey bunker is a writeoff.

The attack came nearly three days after three men with biker gang connections were arrested during raids in the Lower Saint-Lawrence area and in Montreal.

Police found nearly 1,200 kilograms of stolen explosives during the raids last Thursday.

The timing of both events has raised the possibility that a new round of biker wars has been ignited in the province, McInnis said earlier Monday.

"It's sure that we're going to consider whether the biker wars have started again. Perhaps there are other gangs that have issues with the Hells Angels," he told CBC's French-language service.

Quebec journalist and biker war expert Michel Auger believes the Sorel-Tracy attack could have been provoked by the Mafia, disillusioned bikers or former associates linked to the Hells Angels, he explained in an interview with Radio-Canada.

The bunker blaze was one of three fires reported in Sorel-Tracy on Saturday night.

Authorities said a fire was reported in a commercial building around 8 p.m., and a third blaze was discovered in a garage on Saint-Roch Road just before midnight.

The two other blazes are being treated as suspicious, but police said they aren't sure whether they are linked to biker gangs.
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 10:22:53 PM »

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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 10:25:43 PM »

i wonder between this and the action on the west coast a couple months ago, if there is another war starting up
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 10:28:38 PM »

Seems a little counterproductive to arrest guys and impound their stolen TNT when that'll make them just go out steal a tanker truck :nixweiss::oops:
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Re: Quebec bunker blaze raises spectre of biker war
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 11:21:25 PM »

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"It's sure that we're going to consider whether the biker wars have started again. [color=red
Perhaps there are other gangs that have issues with the Hells Angels," [/color] he told CBC's French-language service.


Without a doubt, the Mother of All Understatements.

Sheesh, where do they get these reporters ?

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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 09:10:01 AM »

Wonder who will find the guys that did it first the cops or angels??
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 09:19:30 AM »

about 1 1/2 years old but an interesting read on the state of the MCs in canada lots of smaller clubs that got absorbed by the big dogs

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/bikergangs/
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2008, 09:20:12 AM »

Wonder who will find the guys that did it first the cops or angels??

Their is some speculation the HA may have blown up their own "Bunker" Clubhouse to get rid of any evidence, as the Quebec Police where about to "raid" it again. The Province of Quebec has passed or is trying to pass legislation that no club etc. can have a fortified Clubhouse, building etc.

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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2008, 09:24:04 AM »

"A large fire has gutted a Hells Angels gang bunker"
I can't believe that they really said "Gang Bunker"!  Does anyone really talk like that anymore? How about, "motorcycle enthusiast club house".
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2008, 09:30:06 AM »

There guys and their kindred are nothing but criminals that have a negative impact on us all. If they all went away forever that'd be a good thing. Australia has passed some pretty serious "bikie" laws and Canada is right behind them. I'd be well for them to eliminate themselves except for the innocents that get caught in the cross fires.
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2008, 01:31:32 PM »

There guys and their kindred are nothing but criminals that have a negative impact on us all. If they all went away forever that'd be a good thing. Australia has passed some pretty serious "bikie" laws and Canada is right behind them. I'd be well for them to eliminate themselves except for the innocents that get caught in the cross fires.

That's a pretty broad statement Screamin, but I agree with you in spirit as I know you are talking about the 1%ers. The issue with some of the methods used to accomplish what you've stated is that a lot of small Mom & Pop clubs have sprung up over the years. A bunch of guys like you and your riding buddies decided to form a club. So you get some patches made up and you get together on a regular basis and it's all good clean fun. Maybe the patch says EAGLE RIDERS and to somebody versed in biker culture it's clear you are benign. The problem is John Q Public sees your patch and doesn't know that you and your buddies are just a bunch of average Joes who like to ride and hang out together. John Q Public sees " Biker " And so does law enforcement in communities where the pressure is on the rid the community of "Biker Gangs" Believe me, I'm talkin out my butt here brother, I've had a lot of experience on both sides of this issue. At the end of the day it's like getting rid of the Mafia or Asian Triads etc. Sounds like a great idea, but the accomplishment of it is impossible.

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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2008, 01:50:06 PM »

Feds bust Mongol motorcycle gang after 3-year investigation

By THOMAS WATKINS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LOS ANGELES -- Dozens of burly, tattoo-covered motorcycle gang members were arrested Tuesday by federal agents in six states on warrants ranging from drug sales to murder after a three-year undercover investigation in which four agents successfully infiltrated the group.

At least 38 members of the Southern California-based Mongol motorcycle gang were arrested under a federal racketeering indictment that included charges of murder, attempted murder, assault, as well as gun and drug violations, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesman Mike Hoffman said.

During some arrests, sharpshooters stood guard on surrounding rooftops and motorcycles were lined up and confiscated.

"It's going to be a large hit to their organization, we are arresting many of their top members," Hoffman said.

Among those arrested were the gang's former national president Ruben Cavazos.

Federal and local agents had 110 federal arrest warrants and 160 search warrants that were being served across Southern California and in Nevada, Oregon, Colorado, Washington and Ohio. The sweep, dubbed Operation Black Rain, was to continue throughout the day Tuesday, agents said.

Hoffman said the Mongols had been recruiting members of Los Angeles street gangs to assist in their operations.

Four ATF agents infiltrated the gang and were accepted as full members, a difficult process that requires winning the trust of the gang's top leaders over a period of months, Hoffman said.

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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2008, 02:07:42 PM »

Their is some speculation the HA may have blown up their own "Bunker" Clubhouse to get rid of any evidence, as the Quebec Police where about to "raid" it again. The Province of Quebec has passed or is trying to pass legislation that no club etc. can have a fortified Clubhouse, building etc.

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It is interesting that the "Bunker" went up in flames but no one reported any explosions (ammo or explosives) ...    :-\

And no one the hood got high ..    :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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Re: Fire destroys Hells Angels bunker northeast of Montreal
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2008, 02:10:10 PM »

Feds bust Mongol motorcycle gang after 3-year investigation

By THOMAS WATKINS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LOS ANGELES -- Dozens of burly, tattoo-covered motorcycle gang members were arrested Tuesday by federal agents in six states on warrants ranging from drug sales to murder after a three-year undercover investigation in which four agents successfully infiltrated the group.

At least 38 members of the Southern California-based Mongol motorcycle gang were arrested under a federal racketeering indictment that included charges of murder, attempted murder, assault, as well as gun and drug violations, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesman Mike Hoffman said.

During some arrests, sharpshooters stood guard on surrounding rooftops and motorcycles were lined up and confiscated.

"It's going to be a large hit to their organization, we are arresting many of their top members," Hoffman said.

Among those arrested were the gang's former national president Ruben Cavazos.

Federal and local agents had 110 federal arrest warrants and 160 search warrants that were being served across Southern California and in Nevada, Oregon, Colorado, Washington and Ohio. The sweep, dubbed Operation Black Rain, was to continue throughout the day Tuesday, agents said.

Hoffman said the Mongols had been recruiting members of Los Angeles street gangs to assist in their operations.

Four ATF agents infiltrated the gang and were accepted as full members, a difficult process that requires winning the trust of the gang's top leaders over a period of months, Hoffman said.



would have thought the mongols would be a little more dilligent after Queen infiltrated
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