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What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« on: October 27, 2008, 12:07:07 AM »

Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and could use some help.

I've been riding an '05 Road Glide with a 95" kit producing 105tq/107hp.  It was nice, but I'd like just a hair more (don't we always).  Totaled the RG last weekend and need a replacement (fractured ribs, shattered knee cap, but I'll heal).  Saw the CVO RG at Sturgis this year and dig the looks.  Only thing is, after reading some of the posts here I'm not so sure about the 110.

In all likelihood I'd do something with the pipes, intake, and tune for a bit more power/sound.  Beyond that, what does this motor need to be totally reliable?  Also, is there a cam that wakes it up?

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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 12:11:39 AM »

The '09's have the new heads already installed. The only thing it needs is you on it.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 12:16:40 AM »



Sorry to hear about your accident, you got banged up pretty good, but you are alive and not missing parts that is all good.



Think of it this way.......what are the choices?    Harley   96 CI or 110 CI?   I would take the larger engine

have yet to here of a major problem with late model 2008 or 2009  models.
still issues that have to be addressed due to the way the MOCO has to build

want iron clad reliability........buy metric         but my friends that ride Goldwings are not problem free.

you want to "wake up" this engine is where reliability starts to be put in peril
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 06:30:51 AM »

The '09's have the new heads already installed. The only thing it needs is you on it.  :2vrolijk_21:
I hope you're healing well!

That's encouraging! 

What about pipes/intake/chip or tune --- the basic exterior mods w/out replacing any internals.  Do these motors respond to basic performance upgrades? 

Also, no crank issues?

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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 07:29:35 AM »

That's encouraging! 

What about pipes/intake/chip or tune --- the basic exterior mods w/out replacing any internals.  Do these motors respond to basic performance upgrades? 

Also, no crank issues?

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I hope mine responds as well as my 2007 110 serk, did with just pipes(2-1), K&N hi flo a/c and sert. 

Was around 115 ft/lbs and 96 h.p.  I have an 09 cuse4 now, different bike , but the same basic mods are all I have planeed for the next few months. Best of luck.


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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 08:06:14 AM »

ignition timing way retarded...tr525 or 590...darkhorse the crank if it makes you sleep better...blueprint heads...change throttle body for more than 100 hp
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 08:18:48 AM »

It does still have the flexi crank at 12 thou...That is the "lang shaft run"..There was a thread here witht eh tech doc for hd..

I imagine they had to back the timing wasy off to help make emissions.  :-\
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 08:51:57 AM »

I don't think you have any "issues" on the out of the box '09 110 except the EPA restricted tuning from the factory.  As they say, better late than never, but HD has apparently addressed the problems with the early motors.

From the 8 or 9 110's that I'm personally familiar with the most cost effective wake up appears to be a quick change out to the 251 SE cams, ditch the cat converter and go with a D&D Boarzilla 2 into 1.  Couple that with a good dyno man and the new SERT and you should be right at 122 tq and 106 hp.  Cost is a little North of 2k plus tune time on the dyno.  If cost is a factor, you can probably put off the dyno as there are several excellent maps floating around that come real close.  Very rider friendly setup with dependability.
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 06:41:57 PM »

I don't think you have any "issues" on the out of the box '09 110 except the EPA restricted tuning from the factory.  As they say, better late than never, but HD has apparently addressed the problems with the early motors.

From the 8 or 9 110's that I'm personally familiar with the most cost effective wake up appears to be a quick change out to the 251 SE cams, ditch the cat converter and go with a D&D Boarzilla 2 into 1.  Couple that with a good dyno man and the new SERT and you should be right at 122 tq and 106 hp.  Cost is a little North of 2k plus tune time on the dyno.  If cost is a factor, you can probably put off the dyno as there are several excellent maps floating around that come real close.  Very rider friendly setup with dependability.

That's what I'm talkin' about.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: What needs to be done to a 2009 110" to make it right?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 07:47:11 PM »

I was brief earlier because I was typing on my cell phone...I brought up the ignition timing because so many "tuners" don't adjust for it, and there's a lot of power and throttle response to be gained by correcting the timing...on my '08 fxdse2, almost every cell in the table has added timing...in my opinion, boarzilla is too big if you're using a midrange cam like 251 and keeping the stock throttle body...actually I'd use a shorter cam than 251 with the stock throttle body...it becomes a choke before the big cam can stretch it's legs...better to use something that will make torque sooner, resulting in a wider power band...I chose not to split cases and bulletproof the crank...although not a reliabilty issue, there's a good bit of power to be had from head work: blueprinting, mild porting and a good valve job...check deck height and mill the cylinders if necessary...use .030" head gaskets...more expensive to pull heads but worth it if budget allows
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