Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[theweelad]

Dangit........

Just finished delivery on my 2009 FLHTCSE (Autumn Haze), but got out the door without owners manual.  I hate when I am a dumb ass.....I guess somewher after 40 that CRS stuff must be for real.  Planning to ride tomorrow and dealership is closed.  Salesman gave me "his" readers digest version, but wanted to read it for myself.  Can anyone give me their breakdown of break in for 2009's?

Thanks
Kevin
"The Wee Lad"

[hard10]

Dangit........

Just finished delivery on my 2009 FLHTCSE (Autumn Haze), but got out the door without owners manual.  I hate when I am a dumb ass.....I guess somewher after 40 that CRS stuff must be for real.  Planning to ride tomorrow and dealership is closed.  Salesman gave me "his" readers digest version, but wanted to read it for myself.  Can anyone give me their breakdown of break in for 2009's?

Thanks
Kevin
"The Wee Lad"

Simple, keep it under 4200 RMP's while constantly varying the throttle speed. You don't want to use cruise control so as to keep it at any steady throttle position.
Many miles & smiles,
AJ

[hard10]

I know the next question... 200-300 miles.

[JP]

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

[SERK3]

hard10 is right, thats the way i broke mine in, i think somewhere around 5 or 600 i opened it up for a short distance, had the 1,000 mile done at around 850 pulled out of dealership headed to Myrtle Beach and put her in the wind, at 18,000 miles does not use or leak oil. and did not put SE SYN 3 oil back in it.

[ridefar]

Joe Minton, Technical Editor of American Rider Magazine has explained for years that the only part of your HD motor that requires a "break in" is to properly seat the piston rings. His technique is simple and quick. Get on a long straight road that you can do 60mph. Get the bike rolling into 3rd gear at 35mph, roll the throttle wide open without shifting until you reach 60mph, release throttle, return back to 35mph without shifting, again repeat full throttle up to 60mph in third gear without shiffting, release back to 35. Repeat this until you have done it 10 times. All in 3rd gear! You have now seated the piston rings properly. You will not exceed 3,100 rpm doing this.  For the first 500 miles at least, vary your RPM without ever lugging the motor, ever! Keep it over 2,000rpm and vary the rpm range. Stay off cruise control. Do not exceed 3,500rpm constant. Get that oil and filter changed asap! I had dealer do first oil and filter at approx 600miles in my SEEG for documentation purposes. Enjoy that new ride and be safe! After you have about 1,000 easy miles, ride it like you borrowed it from your brother!

[harleyguynv]

You will get lots of opinions on this subject. I tried the mototuneusa and Joe Minton methods and my rings did not seat properly. I had lots of oil carryover into the aircleaner with both methods. I have used the this method on two 110 motors now and my rings have sealed perfectly. I have NO oil carryover at all. I kept the rpms under 4000 for the first 300 miles. I got this from Mike at Latus Harley Davidson. I hope it is helpful for you.

Break in for new rings is basically what not to do:
Do not overrev the motor (4500rpms or less)
No extended steady state-like freeway (vary the throttle)
No heavy loads where wide throttle openings are required to move the bike (lugging)
Do not do any of above for the first 500 miles and all should be good to go to dyno.


Do close the throttle and let coast every now and then.
Do run the motor in a gear and rpm where it seems happy with the least amount of load.
Do open the throttle once in awhile to put some load on the rings (try to be off throttle for as long as you were on immediately after). Picture running up a small hill then coasting down the other side with the throttle closed.

[Admiral]

You will get lots of opinions on this subject. I tried the mototuneusa and Joe Minton methods and my rings did not seat properly. I had lots of oil carryover into the aircleaner with both methods. I have used the this method on two 110 motors now and my rings have sealed perfectly. I have NO oil carryover at all. I kept the rpms under 4000 for the first 300 miles. I got this from Mike at Latus Harley Davidson. I hope it is helpful for you.

Break in for new rings is basically what not to do:
Do not overrev the motor (4500rpms or less)
No extended steady state-like freeway (vary the throttle)
No heavy loads where wide throttle openings are required to move the bike (lugging)
Do not do any of above for the first 500 miles and all should be good to go to dyno.


Do close the throttle and let coast every now and then.
Do run the motor in a gear and rpm where it seems happy with the least amount of load.
Do open the throttle once in awhile to put some load on the rings (try to be off throttle for as long as you were on immediately after). Picture running up a small hill then coasting down the other side with the throttle closed.

Always wondered about this...
Other than 1st gear what RPM (on the low side) would be considered lugging?
 

[BIGDOG]

Always wondered about this...
Other than 1st gear what RPM (on the low side) would be considered lugging?
 

I don't know that there is an actual number , you just have to listen to the motor. A lot of guys like that lopping sound and on a new motor that is not good. Keep the motor spinning My thought is if you hear the potato potato sound you need more rpm's. I would stay out of 6th gear for first 500 miles any way and try to run 2500-3000 rpm..

[harleyguynv]

My engine seems happy between 2500-3300 rpms.

[timo482]

my 07 developed carry over - the rings never seated. [speculation is that with a side car and the tall gearing its near impossible to not lug a bit at every stop sign.. who knows - ive since lowered the gearing by installing a 15" car tire on the rear]

the moco had new rings put in, changed out all the pump seals, checked runout. all was good except the rings

they did the break in on the dyno - two full runs - cool down to room temp, repeat - five cycles - most of a day strapped to the dyno.

doesn't leak a drop. doesn't burn oil - never add - just change.

the tech said that if you can get the dyno time [ie lots of bux], breaking in the rings on the dyno is nearly fool proof - its the cool down that takes the time.

later

to

[Air51]

http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Friend of mine broke his in by doing what that guy said and totally screwed up his motor.  He was quite pissed off to say the least.  Not Recommended.

[hard10]

...[speculation is that with a side car and the tall gearing its near impossible to not lug a bit at every stop sign.. who knows - ive since lowered the gearing by installing a 15" car tire on the rear]
...
later

to

 

I'd like to see a picture of this.

[timo482]

15" car wheel for ultra - pre paint

tire is 145r15 michelin

to

[Coyote.]

Don't worry about any breakin on your 110". HD will be rebuilding the top end every 10k or so anyways... Just sayin...