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[MYCVO]

Okay, Now I'm on my 3rd trip in for yet another fairly bad leak at the inner primary seal [smiley=furious.gif] My first was in the 5k range, the second was at around 14k, on the second one I had the chrome inner primary installed (love that) [smiley=love.gif]
I just came out from my 20k service now im at 20890 and  [smiley=brood.gif] I got it again! Ya I ride it, Ya I go fast, No I dont pull smoke shows!  No I dont try to pull it up !
Ya I want to do the last two But I havent ! The way it's looking I might as well have, for the amount of trips in for this [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
Am I the only SEEG having this problem?? [smiley=confused5.gif]

[MYCVO]

I'll try to attach a pic of the leak from one night on the stand. Been having problems last few attachments to post up [smiley=confused5.gif]

[JimsSEEG]

What was the culprit of the first two failures?

[MYCVO]

JimSeeg.. was told the seal itself only [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[JimsSEEG]

Personally, when the tear it down, I would ask to see the seal. If the seal is blown for the third time, it's not the seal, there is something else goin on... Either the installation method or the installer, the inner or outer surface, but something is definitely amis.

That kind of lock and odds, you need to be in Vegas...

Jim

[JimsSEEG]

Forgot to mention -

If you get to see the seal, ask the dealer "which way does it go?" Wouldn't be the frst time a seal went in backwards..

Jim

[MYCVO]

Forgot to mention -

If you get to see the seal, ask the dealer "which way does it go?" Wouldn't be the frst time a seal went in backwards..

Jim

Jim.. True that,  oh ya it's diffinitely time for me to get involved with the mechanic now.
I let the 1st and 2 nd time go due to the fact that the bike was new and may have had a little gremlin living there but, now it's nuts.

[greglyon]

I had the same problem.  It turned out that the metal was warped.  Replaced under warranty.

[MYCVO]

I had the same problem.

[JimsSEEG]

My first guess would not be the inner primary cover itself - you mentioned that you just had the inner primary cover replaced with a chrome unit.- unless there is a possibility of getting two warped inner primary covers. My other thought might be shaft runout or deflection and/or possible wear at the seal area on the shaft causing premature seal degradation or an out of round seal area causing the seal to be eliptical when installed.  

It's a pian in the butt on these type of things, but the more discussions you have with the dealer / svc mgr on "lets not just replace the seal and see what happens" the better chance of this being the last time. Besides, next time you go to the dealer, he won't blow you off. It's easy enough for the mgmt team to tell the tech to measure and check every possible option and report back. Dealer doesn't want the reputation that he can't fix a seal. Sometimes your suggestions will help him think of it.

I love playing "stump the band" the dealers and parts guys here....

Jim

[MYCVO]

Jim,   I'll be going to the shop this coming Thursday, and I'll be taking the day off so I can be available to see whats up.  If this wasnt under warranty I'd be getting into it myself and getting this done, as I do my other bikes, but seeing as it is covered... you know. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
I wouldnt be surprised if the cover got a warp but, I'll make sure ALL is checked! I dont want to see another trip in for this.

[greglyon]

MYCVO,

The inner primary cover was warped and replaced.

[MYCVO]

MYCVO,

The inner primary cover was warped and replaced.

IROAR.. I take it the inner cover was a stock one not the chrome [smiley=blank.gif]
How many miles you have on it since fixed??

[MYCVO]

Well,
I found out today that the cause of the inner primary leak was the pressed in race for the shaft had walked inward( which doesnt happen to often) and caused the shaft to wobble slightly, and the seal to fail. The race was a real bi-ch to get out. But I'm told that all is well. I'm not feeling to overconfident about what was told to me.
 I dont as of yet have a manual for this motor or any references to veiw but I am surprised that this race being pressed in has the ability to WALK inward!! does it not have a keeper, a lock, or a wall to butt up against when its pressed in???
 The race was in bad shape, scored from a deposit, from what?? I dont believe that this is going to be the final fix.
 [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=brood.gif]

[Ed Ramberger - One_Screamin_Eagle]

Well,
I found out today that the cause of the inner primary leak was the pressed in race for the shaft had walked inward( which doesnt happen to often) and caused the shaft to wobble slightly, and the seal to fail. The race was a real bi-ch to get out. But I'm told that all is well. I'm not feeling to overconfident about what was told to me.