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2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« on: February 01, 2009, 09:57:15 PM »

Just bought a new 2009 fat bob from day one there was alot of noise in the top end at 2800-3200 rpms plus the bike seemed to be running hot.
Took it into the dealer, explained what was going on. The mechanic took it for a ride, came back and told me that the noise was normal in the 110 motors and that they were going to run hotter. I have been riding bikes for 30 years and declare bull. He told me to let it get broken in. Well it now has  625 milesw on it and got on it a few times well guess what it got so hot i couldnt even sit on the bike. Got in some slow traffic and the motor started to idle down to about 6000 like it dropped a cylender. It also starts to stall when this happens. Funny thing is I live in Colorado, it's January and 45 degrees. I also own a 2007 dyna superglide custom, was checking the temp on it all summer the highest it ever got was 294 on a 100 degree day.
Also checked alot of other harley all summer long 294 was the hottest i could find. Decided to take the cvo out last night 50 degrees , rode it for 3 miles it was at 292 degrees and was cutting out at stop lights. Have been reading all the overheating, top end noise problems with the 07/08 holly cow. What this bike going to do at 100 degrees, also was reading about the oils leaks, went out and checked my bike, well guess what, it's starting to seap oil. I thought Harley had fixed these problems. Well the bike is headed back to the dealer, along with my boot. You pay top dollar for a cvo harley and it makes more noise on the top end than a bad running diesel and runs so hot you could ride it naked at 40 degrees.

Anyone else having problems with the 2009 110 cvo

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2009, 10:16:29 PM »

Welcome aboard Geo! Interesting Screen name! You in the business?

Re your motor, all's I can say is regardless of any mods you want to do or not, GET THAT THING TUNED AND GET YOUR AFR DOWN!!!! Even stock motors need it. Your motor's setup to meet EPA, but not real world, keep your motor together form!!! You need to look at all the info here on how to overcome that! But it's easily done! By spending more money of course!!! Enjoy this Great Site man! :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2009, 10:38:51 PM »

I agree with hoist and get that mtr tuned   and welcome to the site
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 12:49:36 AM »

it almost sounds like its got a air leak..... :-\
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 01:46:31 AM »

Mike, Clearly there is something wrong.  I've had a 110" CVO Road King up in Park County for over two years, riding down to Denver all the time on the warmest (and coldest) of days.  I run it hard.  Zero over heating problems, zero top end sounds, no leaks, etc.  Had the "enhancement" campaign performed just to have it done.  And, I've had no tuning or FI adjustments made.  Bone stock except for some slip-ons.  But there is from the sound of things issues with your bike that need sorted.  Take it to another dealer if you have to.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 02:34:56 AM »

Just bought a new 2009 fat bob from day one there was alot of noise in the top end at 2800-3200 rpms plus the bike seemed to be running hot.
Took it into the dealer, explained what was going on. The mechanic took it for a ride, came back and told me that the noise was normal in the 110 motors and that they were going to run hotter. I have been riding bikes for 30 years and declare bull. He told me to let it get broken in. Well it now has  625 milesw on it and got on it a few times well guess what it got so hot i couldnt even sit on the bike. Got in some slow traffic and the motor started to idle down to about 6000 like it dropped a cylender. It also starts to stall when this happens. Funny thing is I live in Colorado, it's January and 45 degrees. I also own a 2007 dyna superglide custom, was checking the temp on it all summer the highest it ever got was 294 on a 100 degree day.
Also checked alot of other harley all summer long 294 was the hottest i could find. Decided to take the cvo out last night 50 degrees , rode it for 3 miles it was at 292 degrees and was cutting out at stop lights. Have been reading all the overheating, top end noise problems with the 07/08 holly cow. What this bike going to do at 100 degrees, also was reading about the oils leaks, went out and checked my bike, well guess what, it's starting to seap oil. I thought Harley had fixed these problems. Well the bike is headed back to the dealer, along with my boot. You pay top dollar for a cvo harley and it makes more noise on the top end than a bad running diesel and runs so hot you could ride it naked at 40 degrees.

Anyone else having problems with the 2009 110 cvo

Mike         

Good morning Mike,

  :welcome_005: on the CVO website  :2vrolijk_21:

It would be nice for the other members if you present you in the thread New member introduction
with a pic of your bike  ;)

Best regards

  :vrolijk_26: Jacques
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 05:02:48 AM »

Just bought a new 2009 fat bob from day one there was alot of noise in the top end at 2800-3200 rpms plus the bike seemed to be running hot.
Took it into the dealer, explained what was going on. The mechanic took it for a ride, came back and told me that the noise was normal in the 110 motors and that they were going to run hotter. I have been riding bikes for 30 years and declare bull. He told me to let it get broken in. Well it now has  625 milesw on it and got on it a few times well guess what it got so hot i couldnt even sit on the bike. Got in some slow traffic and the motor started to idle down to about 6000 like it dropped a cylender. It also starts to stall when this happens. Funny thing is I live in Colorado, it's January and 45 degrees. I also own a 2007 dyna superglide custom, was checking the temp on it all summer the highest it ever got was 294 on a 100 degree day.
Also checked alot of other harley all summer long 294 was the hottest i could find. Decided to take the cvo out last night 50 degrees , rode it for 3 miles it was at 292 degrees and was cutting out at stop lights. Have been reading all the overheating, top end noise problems with the 07/08 holly cow. What this bike going to do at 100 degrees, also was reading about the oils leaks, went out and checked my bike, well guess what, it's starting to seap oil. I thought Harley had fixed these problems. Well the bike is headed back to the dealer, along with my boot. You pay top dollar for a cvo harley and it makes more noise on the top end than a bad running diesel and runs so hot you could ride it naked at 40 degrees.

Anyone else having problems with the 2009 110 cvo

Mike         
Mike,
To my knowledge there has seldom been any overheating on the Softail or Dyna CVO's. That was usually limited to the Touring bikes, mostly the E-Glides. If your bike is running that hot, you have a mechanical problem there. You should probably try to get a second opinion from another dealer in your area.

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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 07:14:12 AM »

I have a 09 SERG that when new with no miles is was very hot and noisey. The noise is still there and the temps have come down with about 2000 miles on the clock. Just have baffle change for now but will be tunning it before summer and 90* days. I disabled the rear cylinder shut down as it would come on at every light I stopped at untill I had some miles on it. My oil temps remain at 220 to 240 in 70* days now.  Doc
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 08:09:19 AM »

Have had my 09 CVO Springer since end of August last year.

I was not able to get some good miles on it at the end of summer but now have 600 miles bone stock, with no leaks, over heating, or excess noise that I'm aware of.

Hope you can get the dealer to take this seriously. Please keep us updated, all us late 08's & 09'ners are hoping the 110 problems are all fixed. Sounds more like what happens when a bull gets fixed...
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2009, 09:49:11 AM »

Shouldn't be having the overheating problem on your bike.  My '09 Springer runs considerably cooler than by 103 SEEG did.  The problem at idle is the auto shut down on the rear cyl as the ECM is picking up the high temp.  Most dealers I know turn off the shutdown on all models except dressers during the PDI as it always tends to be a pain in the ......  The noisy top end is not typical either in the '09's.  Sounds like you need to find a dealer that will address the noise issue while you take care of the miserable AF ratio set at the factory with a good tune and free flowing exhaust.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2009, 10:02:55 AM »

Not sure where you live in Colorado, I'd try going to a different dealer, have them check it out.
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2009, 02:58:20 PM »

I think TIMO is right ,you have a intake leak. I had 1 intake {tb} seal that was BAD from the factory. Easy to check , spray something on the intake and see if the motor revs up or dowm. I said  'something' because you will get 2 hundred dif things to spray. Dewey
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2009, 03:53:57 PM »

Welcome to the forum Mike, like you im new also, your post is a bit scarey, im waiting on a 2009 Springer Softail CVO and aware of potential problems, get your bike sorted right away, a question here people, is there an oil temperature guage/monitor on the bike or is it an accessory, also can you fit a rev counter to it
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2009, 04:15:55 PM »

Mike...

My CVO Fat Bob didn't have the top end chatter that I've heard others report.  But it did run hot.  Even on cool days the Temperature Management System would shut the rear cylinder down at idle way too often.  I was going to have the dealer shut it off but opted to tune it.  Put on 2" Rush Pipes and a Power Commander and a tune and it runs much cooler now.  The rear cylinder rarely shuts down now.   

Around 500 miles I found oil leaking from the breather.  With a few test runs I discovered it was blowing oil into the breather when I was running it hard (at highway speed.  I now run the oil a little low (1st Hash mark under full) and keep an eye on it.  Seeing a small amount of oil at the breather but is manageable.  Just a shame it would leak at all.

Overall the bike is outstanding. 
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Re: 2009 cvo 110 overheating problems
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2009, 04:55:24 PM »


Thanks everyone for all the responses. Talked with the dealer again today. They told me that they wernt aware of any overheating problems with the 110 motor or any other problems. Thats when i declared bull, showed them the recalls and all the problems with th 07/08 models. Also showed them them a potential class action suit under investigation on the 07/08 models for the same problems i am having.

After showing them all of this and a long disscussion with the head service tech, he agreed my bike has a serious problem. They will be picking it up in the morning. I will let you know what happens. The head service tech was great, I told him to do whatever it takes to fix the problem, being race tunner pipes, dyno etc. His responce was sounds like we need to fix the problem first, instead of masking it. That was a little more comforting.

Thanks againg everyone...Mike           
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