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[sawyerghost]

I know this has been discussed over and over, however I would lke to hear some results from those who hav e made the changes.
While at Bike week(not even that hot low 80's) gost stuck in stopped traffic. Heat Management did mnot have a chance to be effective, with the continous start and stop at a snails pace, so as we have all experienced, the bike got hot enough to shut down completely.
I need to know some of the changes that all of you have made with your results.
I have done very little to the bike.
After running on Highway Oil Temp was at 266 yesterday, ambient temp. in the 70's.

This is what has been done to the bike.
a.) V-H True Dual Header Pipes, using same Screaming Eagle Slipon's
b.) Arlen Ness Big Sucker
c.) Heat Management is activated.

I just want to get rid of the heat the best I can.
Fuel Packs?, SERT's, etc... give me some of your results with what you have done.

Many Thanks!

[1abastarsmda]

It sounds like you've changed the intake and pipes and haven't had the bike tuned.  Get the SE Pro Super Tuner or TTS Mastertune, or any of the others and get your bike tuned.  It came from the factory lean, and now you've opened up the intake and made it even leaner.  Richen up that mixture to cool it down some.

[casper]

Thats about it you need have it tuned properly, I have the SERT and Rienhart Slip on's Stage 1 Air Filter, and also run AMSOIL synthetic. Never feel the heat like I did with the 95" motor in my last Ultra and it was set up the same way.

[wreckman 42]

Aba,

What did you do to yours as I am going to have to do a tune as well when I get dont with the cat removal and Fullsac baffles?

Tim

[1abastarsmda]

Aba,

What did you do to yours as I am going to have to do a tune as well when I get dont with the cat removal and Fullsac baffles?

Tim

When I added Fullsacs, changed air cleaners and removed part of my cat, I took it over to the shop and had them download a base map for me, which was like $30 to $35 labor.  When I changed over to my D&D Fat Cats, I waited until I had 1000 miles and had it dynotuned at the same time.  The base map should get you probably 70 to 90% dialed in, but to get it right, it needs dyno'd by the right person.  As far as the map that Steve at Fullsac is providing, I understand that he is actually giving you a customized map that has been dyno proven already.  He is in a different climate and altitude that many of us, so there could be some slight swings from dead on.  It seems that pretty much everyone has been happy with everything Steve does.  I was quite pleased with the Fullsac baffles, and I will still wonder for a long time if I made a bad move replacing them with something that's much louder.  His have the perfect volume and tone.  If I would have gone on to remove the rest of the cat from my headpipes, I probably would have left those mufflers on.

[sawyerghost]

If the bike got hot enough to shut down should engine oil be changed, or is it OK? Have been using S.E. Synthetic

[1abastarsmda]

If the bike got hot enough to shut down should engine oil be changed, or is it OK? Have been using S.E. Synthetic

I wouldn't do it for that reason.  It's not the oil that shutdown, it was the bike.  I've been seeing a lot of suggestions to change to a different oil once you do have an oil change done.  However, I would get it tuned quickly.  I wouldn't wait around and keep running it too lean.

[sawyerghost]

Just an inquiry about heat and oil temp.
I was running Interstagte in Fl. Amb. Temp. 75, pulled off for Fuel and checked Oil Temp. It was 266.(No Sert)
Does anyone hae a comparison after having the Pro Sert installed and tuned?
And is there any other thoughts on Getting the Heat off the Engine other than the Pro Sert?
I have heard back from other individuals that the Pro Race Tuner is hard to find a qualified mechanic to tune it. And that it is a (PITA) with a lot of Expense in the attempt to help out with the heat.
I need all of the feedback from those who have successfully addressed the engine heat issue, before I pull the trigger on how I take care of the heat issue.
Thanks to all of those on this site!

[1abastarsmda]

Remove the cats and have it tuned...any tuner will help...SEPST, TTS Mastertune, etc.

[DakotaZeb]

Like others have said.  Get it tuned and do it NOW!  I would not ride your bike until you have it tuned.  It is obvious you are running extremely lean and could do permanent damage to your engine.  And with the changes you have made it's likely that Harley would not honor the warranty.

[1abastarsmda]

Correction to my reply...you already got rid of the cat when you put the true duals on.  Get it tuned.  You've changed the air cleaner and now you are getting even more air in a bike that was already running lean from the factory.  Like DakotaZeb said, get it tuned now, before you do permanent damage to your engine.  Your air/fuel ratio has got to be high and that engine has to running very hot.  You need to richen the fuel mixture to cool it down.  Did I mention, "Do it now"?  I didn't like riding mine just 14 miles to the dealer, after I changed the air cleaner and exhaust, to get it tuned.  When I did those things, I had them just load a base map to get me through until my 1000 mile service and complete dyno.  You need to purchase one of the fuel management systems (ie SEPST, TTS) and loading a base map should only be about $30 -$35 or whatever 1/2 an hour labor is at your dealer.  The fuel management system costs some bucks no matter which one you go with, but you'll need it again for the dynotune.  One more time...do it now...don't keep running it that lean.

[sawyerghost]

Thank's to everyone for their information. I have an appointment to have the pro-sert installed this week.

In regards to the Fulsac Baffles:
I already have the V/H Header Pipes, Heat Management is on, Big Sucker High Flow, and the Tuner is being installed this week.
I am not interested in the exhaust being any louder than it aready is for now.
Will I see a dramatic effect in the Heat if I choose to have the Cat's removed, with the Fulsac Baffles to replace my Stock Slip-on's?

[DakotaZeb]

Will I see a dramatic effect in the Heat if I choose to have the Cat's removed, with the Fulsac Baffles to replace my Stock Slip-on's?

Not really.  The tuning will do much more for your heat problem than anything else.  Like we have told you before, you are running very lean and that's causing your heat issue.  The tuning will enrichen the fuel mixture and that will make the bike run cooler.

[1abastarsmda]

Thank's to everyone for their information. I have an appointment to have the pro-sert installed this week.

In regards to the Fulsac Baffles:
I already have the V/H Header Pipes, Heat Management is on, Big Sucker High Flow, and the Tuner is being installed this week.
I am not interested in the exhaust being any louder than it aready is for now.
Will I see a dramatic effect in the Heat if I choose to have the Cat's removed, with the Fulsac Baffles to replace my Stock Slip-on's?

You may also have some heat loss getting rid of the cats, but more importantly, you'll be opening up the exhaust and letting it flow and you will gain significantly in the performance end.

The pro sert tuner doesn't actually get installed on the bike, but rather is a medium that is used between the computer and the ECU to program the ECU properly.  At this point, it should be a very quick and very inexpensive procedure for the shop to do.  I think I paid $30 or $35 for them to download a base map to keep me running properly until I hit 1000 miles and a dynotune.  The base map should get you in the ballpark for tuning, but it's probably not going to get you to an ideal tune.  You should wait until full break-in to have a complete dynotune done and that should take several hours and probably $200 to $400 depending on pricing in your area.

[RGS1966]

Change to Amsoil, take off the lover fairing and install a good oil cooler.  Also have bike dyno because it is running very lean.