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[porthole]

Now for the oh chit.

I was just getting ready to back off the puller - remover when something let go.
Might have been the lower screw holding the plate or just the case.

Either way, the main drive gear bearing moved about 1/8" on the gear before the case let go

[porthole]

This thing just let go with a loud bang

[porthole]

this just plain sucks

[porthole]

Did I mention this sucks 

[porthole]

Main drive gear - case land - bearing - quad seal - pulley spacer (seal rides on this)

[porthole]

Doesn't really show here, but the bearing moved about 1/8" before popping out of the case.

I had no problem pushing the bearing back on.

Have no idea why this happened.

[porthole]

The plate from the drive gear tool.

So it could have been the threads letting go, side loading the tool and bearing or who knows.

That's it - I'm done - gonna go sit in the corner and 

[hd-dude]

OUCH! Really sorry to see this happen   That really sucks Duane, while I have not had this happen to me I have heard of it happening before. I always remove the seal, quad ring and pully spacer before pulling the gear. Also heating the bearing with a torch helps them break free easier. It is possible that the seal and spacer bound up on the gear on the way out.

[porthole]

OUCH! Really sorry to see this happen   That really sucks Duane, while I have not had this happen to me I have heard of it happening before. I always remove the seal, quad ring and pulley spacer before pulling the gear. Also heating the bearing with a torch helps them break free easier. It is possible that the seal and spacer bound up on the gear on the way out.

I don't know - the quad ring and pulley spacers were loose on the shaft, no binding, and I didn't think the seal would make a difference 

I'm kind of thinking that the bottom bolt pulling out side loaded the bearing and caused this. I didn't realize that there was so much pressure that it bent the plate.

Any time I had gears - bearings like this in the automotive world, the tool we used dropped down around the gear and would have pressed right against the case.

In retrospect, this seems like a bad idea for removing this bearing, that may be "stuck".

[hd-dude]

I don't know - the quad ring and pulley spacers were loose on the shaft, no binding, and I didn't think the seal would make a difference 

I'm kind of thinking that the bottom bolt pulling out side loaded the bearing and caused this. I didn't realize that there was so much pressure that it bent the plate.

Any time I had gears - bearings like this in the automotive world, the tool we used dropped down around the gear and would have pressed right against the case.

In retrospect, this seems like a bad idea for removing this bearing, that may be "stuck".

No way to tell what bound up, could be the gear in the bearing, some rust or corrosion got caught up on its way through, that is why it moved some first. The case is a poor design, not much support there at all for pulling the gear against. For what its worth my puller is bent as well........

[Gettinold]

That sux Duane....   I guess Baker will be taking that gear set back ontrade for a complete trans...... w/ a real case. 

[Talon]

To bad Duane, so the threads in the case let go or the tool? Man really bent that bar!

Craig

[Boatman]

I woke up in the middle of the night thinking the space shuttle made a surprise launch and here it was a fellow forum friend in his garage in New Jersey saying "oh chit"..   
 
Duane, your  a better person than me as I wouldn't even have a camera left to post pictures after what happened to you.

Wasn't till I looked at the removed main drive gear and bearings that I saw the part of the transmission housing that pulled loose (pop) with what you was wanting to remove.

Too good a guy for that to happen.  Must have happened for a reason.  May be better off with a new tranny in the long run.  I don't know how much harder it is to remove the tranny but you were replaceing the swing arm bearings/bushings anyway?

Does the belt need replaced at 35K?   I hear they last twice that long?  May be good to do now?

It's not funny now, but I hope we can all share a laugh at one of the CVO get togethers.

Hang in there, Bob 

[porthole]

That sux Duane....   I guess Baker will be taking that gear set back ontrade for a complete trans...... w/ a real case. 

Don't think they offer a complete FL trans  Can't find one on their site.
Trading in won't be an option. Trade to Baker and you'll be working off of list price. Returning and trying to buy new would cost a 20% restock.
I'll just order a new case and go from there.

To bad Duane, so the threads in the case let go or the tool? Man really bent that bar!

What came first the chicken or the egg?
Either the case finally let go and the resulting forces of the gear/bearing slamming into the plate knocked the bolt out (with the threads still wrapped around the bolt) or the threads let go - side loaded the bearing and all hell broke loose. It happened very fast and the bolt shot across the garage.

I've already received messages that say this is not common but it does happen. And apparently I'm not the only one with a plate bent like that.
In retrospect, I think it is a bad idea pulling the gear like that.

I have done a lot of engine - trans- axle work in the past (my previous automotive career) and the tools would have been designed different for something like this.
I'm going to pass my thoughts on to George's Garage and see what he thinks.

Duane, your  a better person than me as I wouldn't even have a camera left to post pictures after what happened to you.

My camera costs more then the gear set. Besides, I think your to mellow to get that mad 

Must have happened for a reason.  May be better off with a new tranny in the long run.  I don't know how much harder it is to remove the tranny but you were replacing the swing arm bearings/bushings anyway?

Well - I did order the bearings bushings for the swing arm (stock), so I think once the swing arm is out I only have four more bolts, two oil hoses (plus the Ride Str-8) to remove. Just have to figure out how to hang the engine with it sitting on a floor jack and the rear wheel already off.

Does the belt need replaced at 35K?   I hear they last twice that long? 

May be good to do now?

Belt looks good, I would think at least 50K or so. Your a funny guy wanting me to buy even more parts 

It's not funny now, but I hope we can all share a laugh at one of the CVO get together.

No, not funny, but I am getting a chuckle thinking about it, not my trans, but you having a 6 speed 

[Boatman]

No, not funny, but I am getting a chuckle thinking about it, not my trans, but you having a 6 speed 

You're a real comedian Duane.  Most of you guys don't even think I use the 5th I have now.