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Jim's 120" Grenades
« on: April 27, 2009, 06:43:16 PM »

A friend of mine installed a Jim's 120 in his '07 FLTR immediately upon delivery in the summer of '07. Motor was stock as delivered from Jim's, was tuned with TMAX-AT, and had Thunder header exhaust. Returning from Maggie Valley to Northern VA this weekend, a ticking noise developed. He initially attributed it to excess heat and shut the bike off to cool down. After restarting, the noise got progressively worse forcing him to shut it down and call for a trailer to get the bike home. Further inspection and tear down suggest that a lifter roller failed resulting in the destruction of the cam chest components. It will take a complete teardown and rebuild to ensure all metal particulates have been removed from the engine prior to rebuild. As luck would have it he is outside the 12 month warranty and just at 12k previously trouble free miles. He called Jim's and was told someone would argue his case for some kind of assistance but he's not overly hopeful at this time. I would think they would be extremely interested in learning the details of the failure first hand. Perhaps not.

I recall that Jims had issues with earlier versions of their lifters, but the problems were reported to have been fixed. Anyone out there seen or heard of similar instances with the recent Jim's 120 motors?
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 07:59:00 PM »

A friend of mine installed a Jim's 120 in his '07 FLTR immediately upon delivery in the summer of '07. Motor was stock as delivered from Jim's, was tuned with TMAX-AT, and had Thunder header exhaust. Returning from Maggie Valley to Northern VA this weekend, a ticking noise developed. He initially attributed it to excess heat and shut the bike off to cool down. After restarting, the noise got progressively worse forcing him to shut it down and call for a trailer to get the bike home. Further inspection and tear down suggest that a lifter roller failed resulting in the destruction of the cam chest components. It will take a complete teardown and rebuild to ensure all metal particulates have been removed from the engine prior to rebuild. As luck would have it he is outside the 12 month warranty and just at 12k previously trouble free miles. He called Jim's and was told someone would argue his case for some kind of assistance but he's not overly hopeful at this time. I would think they would be extremely interested in learning the details of the failure first hand. Perhaps not.

I recall that Jims had issues with earlier versions of their lifters, but the problems were reported to have been fixed. Anyone out there seen or heard of similar instances with the recent Jim's 120 motors?

I also had a bad lifter Grenade my Jims 120 in may 2007, it tore up the whole bottom end. The engine was just under the Warranty Period, I do not remember by how long. At that time their was a recall on the lifters, however I was never notified by them.

We got a hold of Jims and explained what happened and along with help from Charlie Lawlor of Short Block Charlies who built the engine, we sipped the engine back for inspection and Jims replaced the complete Engine along with their new generation of lifters no charge, replacement engine ran great and still runs great with a new owner.

I would still discuss with Jims, if you haven't already, also have the engine builder discuss this with Jims. If the Lifter (could have been the old style) malfunctioned, I think that they should replace the engine.

The HD SE Lifters are made by Jims, I think. In my opinion a High Performance Lifter should last more than One Tear and or 12,000 miles.

Good luck on your claim.

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 08:35:55 PM »

The good news is that Jim's responded that they would like him to ship them the motor for inspection and potential repair/replacement. Actual expense to be paid by the owner is still not clear, but things are looking better. Given that it is beyond the warranty period, the fact that Jim's is working to resolve the issue says something about the company. They could have told him it is out of warranty - too bad.  He is considering having them do a 131 upgrade when they have it. Hopefully it will turn out OK. The forced labor expenses and associated downtime are unfortunate, but a discounted 131 may help ease the pain. 
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 09:00:21 AM »

I just talked to the mechanic that is doing the tear down. He wanted to get on here this morning but his net was down. I got the pretty good poop on the whole deal. I think he is going to try to get on here tonight when he gets home.

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 09:49:44 AM »

Why come bait the waters and share no pertinent info about the mishap.    You're such a TEASE.    ::)



I got the pretty good poop on the whole deal.

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 10:18:52 AM »

Why come bait the waters and share no pertinent info about the mishap.    You're such a TEASE.    ::)


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yeah just like all his scoop poop on the 110 repairs  :huepfenjump3:
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 10:38:58 AM »

Hey DAWG... Pull your pants down and give us the "POOP"  :bananarock: :bananarock:
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 10:43:49 AM »

Sporty,

Would that then be considered a Dawg Pile  :huepfenlol2:
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 12:31:20 PM »

Why come bait the waters and share no pertinent info about the mishap.    You're such a TEASE.    ::)


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Because you have no mechanical ability!!!! :oops: Oh and you may not understand.

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 12:33:33 PM »

yeah just like all his scoop poop on the 110 repairs  :huepfenjump3:

Ah but I did have the poop on the 110's. I was asked not to put it on the web. All I did was tell the people on here that the MOCO had a fix and to stand by. HOW WAS I to know it would take 4 weeks and not work any way. I am glad my main ride is still a 103!!!!!!

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 01:38:47 PM »

Because you have no mechanical ability!!!! :oops: Oh and you may not understand.

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Wow aren't you full of yourself, should everyone bow down now, not likely. 

Sure glad you didn't spoil someone elses thunder on what went wrong, gawd how wrong would that be after coming in and saying I KNOW I KNOW.

Again big deal
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2009, 03:56:20 PM »

Harry,,

I called Jim's to discuss issue cause as you know I'm running  one. They told me not to be concerned with my motor. Kind of leads me to belief they know about an issue but they are sitting on it. I purchased mine last June 2008. Would be interesting to know when the Granaded 120" was purchased.. We need a ping in on that one.  Re Read his post.. Summer of 2007. I hope they fixed the issues on our motors..Sounds like we may be good to go   :nixweiss: I BET THATS WHAT DWAG WAS GONNA TELL US  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2009, 06:25:41 PM »

I'm sure Jims will look after the problem, they did for me, and I was happy with them. I would buy another Jims 120.

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2009, 08:19:42 PM »

Harry,,

I called Jim's to discuss issue cause as you know I'm running  one. They told me not to be concerned with my motor. Kind of leads me to belief they know about an issue but they are sitting on it. I purchased mine last June 2008. Would be interesting to know when the Granaded 120" was purchased.. We need a ping in on that one.  Re Read his post.. Summer of 2007. I hope they fixed the issues on our motors..Sounds like we may be good to go   :nixweiss:

Axil may chime in and fill you guys in. He is working on 2 Jims 120's as we speak.

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Re: Jim's 120" Grenades
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2009, 09:44:05 PM »

  oh! you mean this one? Jim's is out standing as always but the details are not done at this time, but thay are "on it" 
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