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[migs]

Hi friend, sorry if this is not only a CVO problem but a wider issue, but this is the only place where I think I cud find an answer..
First new 2006 bikes with Harman kardon radio and CB are arriving here in Italy.. all new owners are experiencing CB problems (they can talkk to any other 2006 owner but not with old CB...) as I am planning to buy the new Ultra SE (mainly for the CB features as I am very satisfied with my SEEG 04) is this a problem some of u already experienced (and hopefully solved) or is only an Italian/European matter?
Sounds strange but no one at HD Italia or Europe seems to have the answer...

Ciaoo

[JCZ]

Hi friend, sorry if this is not only a CVO problem but a wider issue, but this is the only place where I think I cud find an answer..
First new 2006 bikes with Harman kardon radio and CB are arriving here in Italy.. all new owners are experiencing CB problems (they can talkk to any other 2006 owner but not with old CB...) as I am planning to buy the new Ultra SE (mainly for the CB features as I am very satisfied with my SEEG 04) is this a problem some of u already experienced (and hopefully solved) or is only an Italian/European matter?
Sounds strange but no one at HD Italia or Europe seems to have the answer...

Ciaoo

I sent an email off to my contact at HD.  He usually gets back to me within a day or two, if he's here in the coutry.  If he's over seas, then sometimes he takes longer.  I'll post when he responds.

[migs]

really appreciate mate...
what they tried here at local dealers was unsuccesfully, the best result we got between pre 06 and a 06 model is an horrible noise and some voices heard without understanding... but when the connection was established between two 06 models the communication was clear and clean as never before...

[Twolanerider]

Hi friend, sorry if this is not only a CVO problem but a wider issue, but this is the only place where I think I cud find an answer..
First new 2006 bikes with Harman kardon radio and CB are arriving here in Italy.. all new owners are experiencing CB problems (they can talkk to any other 2006 owner but not with old CB...) as I am planning to buy the new Ultra SE (mainly for the CB features as I am very satisfied with my SEEG 04) is this a problem some of u already experienced (and hopefully solved) or is only an Italian/European matter?
Sounds strange but no one at HD Italia or Europe seems to have the answer...

Ciaoo

Migs,
Do you know if Italy has the same regulations for CB frequencies as does the UK.  If the rules are EU wide I might have at least a suggestion that would account for what you're experiencing.  The UK uses the same number of CB channels and the same frequencies for CB that are allocated in the US.  But one is FM and one is AM.  So there are completely NOT interchangeable.  

If you got US radios on your new bikes this would account for them being able to transmit and receive with each other but not with any other radio that used the other modulation.  From the rider's perspective they would look the same, feel the same and act the same since you'd be scrolling through the same number of channels on the same frequencies.  But you wouldn't "hear" anyone else.

Just a guess.  Would hate to think that Harley made a mistake like that.  But it fits your current facts.

[Eqcons]

Migs,
Do you know if Italy has the same regulations for CB frequencies as does the UK.  If the rules are EU wide I might have at least a suggestion that would account for what you're experiencing.  The UK uses the same number of CB channels and the same frequencies for CB that are allocated in the US.  But one is FM and one is AM.  So there are completely NOT interchangeable.  

If you got US radios on your new bikes this would account for them being able to transmit and receive with each other but not with any other radio that used the other modulation.  From the rider's perspective they would look the same, feel the same and act the same since you'd be scrolling through the same number of channels on the same frequencies.  But you wouldn't "hear" anyone else.

Just a guess.  Would hate to think that Harley made a mistake like that.  But it fits your current facts.

That sounds VERY logical to me Twolane!  One thing that's different about the Harman/Kardon sets is that - unlike the Radiosound ones - they are all the same, and the firmware is simply changed to regionalise them; if they forgot to set to Euro frequencies/FM for the CB on a batch that left the factory bound for Italy, your explanation is bang on!

Yes, the FM CB frequencies here in the UK are Europe wide, I think.  Not the same as the US ones though, if I remember correctly; they are still in the 27MHz band, but slightly higher up (with some ovelap, on the higher channel numbers, I think).

Jim

[Twolanerider]

Jim, if the Xmitters are physically the same unit with just a firmware's difference that makes it even more likely.  That being the case it's also a likely order of service that the factory wouldn't even set them up.  It'd be left to the local dealer to regionalize them for whereever they landed.  If that does turn out to be the problem it'll be an easy fix though.  And that's the best news of all.

[Eqcons]

Jim, if the Xmitters are physically the same unit with just a firmware's difference that makes it even more likely.  That being the case it's also a likely order of service that the factory wouldn't even set them up.  It'd be left to the local dealer to regionalize them for whereever they landed.  If that does turn out to be the problem it'll be an easy fix though.  And that's the best news of all.

Absolutely Twolane - one of the beauties of the new system!

Jim

[migs]

really thanks for now, it sounds strange that the factory did not regionalize the radios but seems the only reason... I ll suggest it to the dealer and let u know..... thx a lot m8... ciaoooo.....

[DavidB]

    A firend just bought an 06 ultra and the cb sounds like crap. We set the swr and it still sounds bad. It keys with plenty of power but the modulation sounds like it clips the voice. We tried a different mike but it sounded the same. No one could understand anything he was trying to say yesterday. The radio is made by Midland and is dead on frequency but I did not check to see if it xmitting on the  AM or FM band. He may have an export radio.

[Eqcons]

  He may have an export radio.

As I understand it, David, no such thing exists in the 06 range. ALL the radios are the same, and the region (hence AM or FM for the CB) is selected in the firmware.

Jim

[CVOwner]

really thanks for now, it sounds strange that the factory did not regionalize the radios but seems the only reason... I ll suggest it to the dealer and let u know..... thx a lot m8... ciaoooo.....

It might be the radio doesnt understand Italian! Try speaking english!  [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

[CVOinLV]

Migs

I have the exact same problem with my 06 CB as described by DavidB.  The dealer has not been able to isolate or fix it yet and so far the local dealer and Harley national is telling me that they have not heard of this problem from another else.  Also if there is a difference between US and EU CB models, I would hesitate on downloading and installing the software patch that is on the Harley website.

Look at http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1132341485

[Eqcons]

Migs

I have the exact same problem with my 06 CB as described by DavidB.  The dealer has not been able to isolate or fix it yet and so far the local dealer and Harley national is telling me that they have not heard of this problem from another else.  Also if there is a difference between US and EU CB models, I would hesitate on downloading and installing the software patch that is on the Harley website.

Look at http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1132341485

Did you get this sorted out?  Seems I have a problem too!    Others can hear me, but they are just the tiniest whisper to me when they transmit, and I know they are talking, but they are too quiet (with the volume full up!) for me to make out what they say. I haven't had the chance to try with anorth 2006 bike yet.

Jim

[fxdjerry]

It would interesting to find that the unit can modulate on either fm or am with just a software update. Could it possible that those people that have recieve issues don't know there is more than one volume control?

[Eqcons]

It would interesting to find that the unit can modulate on either fm or am with just a software update. Could it possible that those people that have recieve issues don't know there is more than one volume control?

Oh, I know there's more than one volume control - it plain doesn't work, even with the COM volume right up.    And it appears I'm not alone - I rang Iang, also a member tonight, and his is the same.

Yes, I'm pretty certain that it will modulate AM or FM with just the firmware.

Jim