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Oil cooler
« on: May 21, 2009, 04:55:13 PM »

Has anyone installed a JAGG or other type additional oil cooler on 09 SERG?  If so, would you recommend it or not?  Haven't been too hot yet but am just thinking about keeping the heat down for the engine itself more than for me.
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 05:18:16 PM »

$.02:  Is your bike stock?  If so, I think you'd be much better off cooling down the engine than by trying to cool down a hot engine.  The stock motor burns too lean which makes it hot.  Then add the restriction of the cat and you're even hotter.  Have you drilled / removed the cat?  Tuner?  Even a fuel pak?   :nixweiss:
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 07:08:47 PM »

Does any body have a high heat problem running down the road? I don't. The problem is when in slow city traffic or when stopped idling, so IMO an oil cooler is a waste. It aint gona do didly when your stoped because no air is flowing through it. Maybe I'm off base(which is known to happen) but I just don't see the advantage. The real adevantage is getting away from the lean (EPA mandated) factory settings. Like I said just my .02 cents.
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 07:38:40 PM »

Does any body have a high heat problem running down the road? I don't. The problem is when in slow city traffic or when stopped idling, so IMO an oil cooler is a waste. It aint gona do didly when your stoped because no air is flowing through it. Maybe I'm off base(which is known to happen) but I just don't see the advantage. The real adevantage is getting away from the lean (EPA mandated) factory settings. Like I said just my .02 cents.

Probably need to do both; tune and oil cooler.  If the basic engine had sufficient area to dissipate heat (cylinder, head, and oil pan surface area and fins, for instance), perhaps an oil cooler wouldn't be needed.  However, H-D has made the engine significantly bigger from when it was originally designed, the emission regulations are much more stringent, and due to styling considerations they didn't see fit to drastically increase the finning of the cylinders and heads.  Consider if you will H-D's own decision to add oil coolers to the Touring 103 and 110.  They wouldn't have done that, along with a change to synthetic oil, if they didn't think it was absolutely necessary to protect the engine (at least while it's under warranty).  For years they told us oil coolers weren't needed, and they refused to "bless" the use of synthetic oil.  Do you really think they backtracked on both of those items without darned good reasons to do so?  I don't.

Very true, unless you add a fan an oil cooler doesn't do squat when you're sitting around idling in traffic.  But once you get moving that oil cooler will help to more rapidly stabilize the oil at the desired temperature rather than just let it continue to cook.  And when the outside temps get ridiculous, as in 90 plus degrees, even if you don't sit in traffic the cooler will make a difference.  The real shame of the situation is that H-D once again chose style over function and buried the cooler down behind the front fender and wheel instead of putting it up in the direct air flow, used a fairly restrictive design, and then reduced effectiveness even more with a chrome cover.  

My opinion, get a good tune and add a cooler to those bikes that don't have one.  If you have a Touring model with the H-D cooler and you ride in extreme heat, it would also be a good idea to look at upgrading the cooler to a better aftermarket setup.  JMHO, of course.

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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 08:21:43 PM »

This was mentioned in another thread - Ultra Cool FL Oil Cooler. It's an oil cooler w/fan assist.

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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »

This was mentioned in another thread - Ultra Cool FL Oil Cooler. It's an oil cooler w/fan assist.

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Any body installed one yet? Or replaced the cooler on an SEUC with one?
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 06:40:01 PM »

Here's a less costly alternative:  http://bigskyfan.tripod.com/index.html.
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 07:34:27 PM »

Here's a less costly alternative:  http://bigskyfan.tripod.com/index.html.

This makes sense to me.  Has anybody used these?  If so, some feedback would be great!
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 05:33:34 AM »

 i tried the bigsky  fan kit did not fit with  oil cooler send it back  fans are 1 inch do not have 1 inch between cooler and reg   i guess you can  make it fit  but must mortify  09 ultra
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2009, 07:12:58 AM »

I run the HD premium cooler stock on my 09 SERG and run it in parralle with the engine gaurd cooler , with out side temps in the high 80s now, bike runs at 230* at criuse, temp at the pan. The tune did little to lower oil temp but did lower head and exhaust temps with the non cat headers and 2.25" baffles. Have not had a problem in traffic as I avoid it all in the summer. I would like to see the oil temp at 220* but it is not going to happen. The jagg 10 row will help only about 5* with the set up I run now and I also have an extra Qt,. of oil with the engine gaurd cooler set up. I know Jettjocky is running 2 Jagg 10 rows but have not heard what he is getting for temps at the pan.   Doc
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Re: Oil cooler
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2009, 07:27:32 PM »

If this kit moves the oil cooler out an inch I won't have clearance for the fender since the SEEGs are lowered.  Bummer. 
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