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[UncleTom]

Congrats RickC on "FINALLY" getting the upgrade done. Glad to read you can endorse this solution.

It does raise a few questions in my mind though for Ultra owners.

When using a non-cat head pipe, Fullsac baffles, TTS and Steve's map..., is there any real reason to upgrade the stock Ultra breather (how much more power)

Further, is there a separate map for the 2.0 and 2.25 baffles?

Lastly, my understanding is the map(s) were created with the stock RG hi-flo breather. Will this map work well with the stock Ultra breather?

Thanks, UT.

[cola]

what is the afr set at with this map.
mike

[HOGMIKE]

what is the afr set at with this map.
mike

Looks to be about 14.63 in the closed loop area if my math is correct! Looks to be open loop under no/low load conditions and 13.9.

[HOGMIKE]

Congrats RickC on "FINALLY" getting the upgrade done. Glad to read you can endorse this solution.

It does raise a few questions in my mind though for Ultra owners.

When using a non-cat head pipe, Fullsac baffles, TTS and Steve's map..., is there any real reason to upgrade the stock Ultra breather (how much more power)

Further, is there a separate map for the 2.0 and 2.25 baffles?

Lastly, my understanding is the map(s) were created with the stock RG hi-flo breather. Will this map work well with the stock Ultra breather?

Thanks, UT.

My own opinion would be to set the bike up the way you like, pipes, air cleaner, etc. THEN do the tune. Most of the aftermarket stuff out there will be very close as far as HP and torque numbers. High flow in and out surely won't hurt!
Your day to day driving experience will be more important than the numbers you get on the Dyno. Get a good tuner and software program and save money in the long run.
You geeks out there will really have fun with SERT and TTS and the like where you can tune to your hearts content!!! LOL
I've had fun with my TTS system, tried a couple of different maps, and can hardly tell the difference, except it sure runs a lot cooler now!
Hope this helps a little.

[OhioDave]

My own opinion would be to set the bike up the way you like, pipes, air cleaner, etc. THEN do the tune. Most of the aftermarket stuff out there will be very close as far as HP and torque numbers. High flow in and out surely won't hurt!
Your day to day driving experience will be more important than the numbers you get on the Dyno. Get a good tuner and software program and save money in the long run.
You geeks out there will really have fun with SERT and TTS and the like where you can tune to your hearts content!!! LOL
I've had fun with my TTS system, tried a couple of different maps, and can hardly tell the difference, except it sure runs a lot cooler now!
Hope this helps a little.

I had the same question as UncleTom regarding using the stock SEUC breather....it sounds like for my riding style it's not that big of a deal, the main goal is to cool the thing down.

[UncleTom]

Thanks HOGMIKE for the reply. Agree day-to-day riding experience is more important than peak dyno numbers.

Thanks, UT.

[32Lager]

RickC,
You're right about the wicked ride. Mine's running great since I opened it up to let it breathe. My exhaust system has the Fullsac 2.25" baffles with the cats completely removed and I went with a Ness Big Sucker air filter system. I got the TTS tuner and custom map from Steve at Fullsac and used my daughter's laptop to load everything up. To me, it's a perfect combination without spending any money on a dyno tune. I've run about 2800 miles on this setup so far and have no issues at all. No more motor boat sound, gobs of power with quick throttle response from anywhere I've been at in the rpm range. I went from an average of 38 to 39 mpg to an average of 43 mpg (as high as 45.2). And...it's pretty impressive when you crank on a big Ultra and feel the front end getting light.

OhioDave,
If it's not too late and you're still wondering about the air cleaner, I'd recommend the Ness system because it has the oil breathers built into the mounting system. There no rubber hoses to mess with and it works great with the stock cover. You can buy the chromed version through Eastern Performance for $118.90 shipped. There's no tax or shipping costs if you're outside of Maryland and I don't think you can beat their price or customer service. Their phone number is 410-451-5181 and the part number for our '09 Ultra is #AN18-512. I'm in Pa. so it was at my door the next day.

[Diamondback]

 

Even though I went with the PC V, autotune, Rinehart's and Stage I AC, I was impressed that by freeing up the air flow in and the exhaust out and moved the AFR to 13.7, my mileage got better and the power is way up.

Just shows how restricted the stock setup is.

 

[OhioDave]

OhioDave,
If it's not too late and you're still wondering about the air cleaner, I'd recommend the Ness system because it has the oil breathers built into the mounting system. There no rubber hoses to mess with and it works great with the stock cover. You can buy the chromed version through Eastern Performance for $118.90 shipped. There's no tax or shipping costs if you're outside of Maryland and I don't think you can beat their price or customer service. Their phone number is 410-451-5181 and the part number for our '09 Ultra is #AN18-512. I'm in Pa. so it was at my door the next day.

Sounds like a plan, i bought the Ness filter setup from them for my '03, i wasn't sure if it would fit on the '09, thanks !
-dave

[nidan]

I'm running the SE 4" touring slip-ons now on my 07 103 stage II.  I was thinking about the Fullsac 2.0 after seeing the dyno that steve posted.   Do you all thing I'll need a re-map?   I have SERT so not a problem , just curious.

Any idea what to expect in terms of power?  I have no doubt they'll sound better.



Thanks in advance

[Diamondback]

 

Yes, it is my experience with that same muffler the fullsac's will be much less restrictive and a tune will be needed or the bike will run to lean

 

[KLOAV8]

I ordered my 2.00 and TTS from Fullsac for my new 09 SEUC and Steve recommended saving the money on the A/C and leaving the stock one in for everyday riding as it is a high flow unit. I can't wait to get rid of the motor boat sound!!

[KLOAV8]

Alright, I am in big trouble. I got my package from Fullsac today with 2.00 baffles, TTS, and cables. No instructions, pictures, or anything to give me a hint as to what to do next. I put in the CD and downloaded the TTS programs to my laptop. HELP!!! I plan to call Fullsac in the morning as he said he would e-mail me their map, but have not received it either.

I must be missing something!

[HOGMIKE]

Alright, I am in big trouble. I got my package from Fullsac today with 2.00 baffles, TTS, and cables. No instructions, pictures, or anything to give me a hint as to what to do next. I put in the CD and downloaded the TTS programs to my laptop. HELP!!! I plan to call Fullsac in the morning as he said he would e-mail me their map, but have not received it either.

I must be missing something!

While you are waiting for Steve to get back to you, check  this topic out:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=28086.0

Take your time and read through the TTS info there is a lot to learn there (for ME, anyway!)

[KLOAV8]

Hobmike, thanks for the info. Changing the baffles is not a problem, there is good info with them. My issue is that there is no info at all with the TTS to read or study. I'm sure I'll get it figured out when I talk to Steve today.