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Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« on: June 25, 2009, 08:10:30 PM »

I have 13500 miles on my 09 SEUC.

I have had a concern for the last 1000 to 1500 miles with a rather loud ticking sound at cold start up on my 110.

This ticking or rattle only happened 1 in every 10 or so cold start up's, not everytime.

I went by the Harley shop and talked with the service manager and asked if I could talk to the techs.

I told a couple techs what was happening and the response was the same, "You have a lifter bleeding down".

The Harley shop asked that I bring the bike in since they now have an official Harley fix for the rusting 09 swingarm.

******************************************^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Attn. Dave!

The service manager told me that he had also ordered 4 new lifters for my bike and would have them installed when the tech did the swingarm fix.

I asked why four and he said they would rather change all four than change one and have three old ones left.

I thought this was very cool that they were going to change them out based on my concern and had never looked or listened to the bike.

What was happening was a lifter when stopped in a certain position as the motor was shut down would bleed down and "tick or rattle" until it had a chance to pump up on start up. This was usually after the bike had sat overnight or 3 or 4 hours.

My 110 has been a noisy motor from mile 9 when I got it but the lifter rattle or ticking at cold start was a new sound that seemed to be getting worse or more frequent as I put miles on it.

So now it's back to being just a regular 110 with the standard 110 noise.

I guess this could happen to any motor but for me there was no cost since warranty covered it all.

So if your experiencing some extra ticking or rattling at start up that goes away after 30 seconds or so it may be a bad lifter.

Just an FYI!

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 08:45:25 PM »

Chip

 Thank you for posting this information, I will keep a close look out for this development. I have heard a ticking at 2100 and 2800 rpm that goes away after the bike warms up. I hope this is the same thing and I can solve this promblem thanks to your help.

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 10:24:32 PM »



Marty

Glad to help!

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 11:02:48 PM »

Chip-

You can see you have a good relationship with your dealer for them to order the lifters.  All four is the only way to go.  Hope it is the problem and the noise is gone.   Must have been loud to hear over the Fatcat's.    :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 11:14:27 PM »


 All four is the only way to go. 



If they're accepting the job they'd almost have to do all four.  Would never know with certainty they had the right one.  Might be able to ear-locate the right pair.  But never the right one.  Do 'em all or don't do them at all.  Good shop.
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009, 07:20:23 AM »

Chip-

You can see you have a good relationship with your dealer for them to order the lifters.  All four is the only way to go.  Hope it is the problem and the noise is gone.   Must have been loud to hear over the Fatcat's.    :2vrolijk_21:


Thanks Bob!

It's not that it was loud, it was just a different noise!
I listen and am familiar with each sound my 110 makes and that sound was only on cold start ups.
It's fine now so it's time to ride.

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009, 08:03:41 AM »

The Harley shop asked that I bring the bike in since they now have an official Harley fix for the rusting 09 swingarm.

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So what is the offical fix???

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 11:55:17 AM »

The Harley shop asked that I bring the bike in since they now have an official Harley fix for the rusting 09 swingarm.

******************************************^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Attn. Dave!


So what is the offical fix???

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Drill holes in the belt guard.

Just like everyone said.

They are suppose to email me the official fix today and I will post when I get it!

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009, 11:58:15 AM »

Thanks Chip.... :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »

Thanks Chip
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2009, 12:13:57 PM »

Chip

 Thank you for posting this information, I will keep a close look out for this development. I have heard a ticking at 2100 and 2800 rpm that goes away after the bike warms up. I hope this is the same thing and I can solve this promblem thanks to your help.

Marty

Marty,

Didn't Brad change lifters when you did the cams?
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2009, 12:19:30 PM »

Didn't Brad change lifters when you did the cams?

 just called, no lifters

 Brad did :  spark plug's , stage 1, muf's, drop in yb14 cam, air cleaner, master tune

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 12:38:29 PM »

     At 12,000 miles , I heard a squeal (sounded like a bad bearing noise) I was 500 miles from home, so I took it to a local dealer. They had never heard that noise before , said they could tear into the motor. I decided to cross my fingers and head home.  Local dealer replaced lifters (they had flat spotted on the roller bearing) also replaced push rods and cams.

     I now have 22,000 miles on the bike, and it runs fine . Just wanted to contribute this info for the website.  Thanks, Chris
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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 12:52:05 PM »

     At 12,000 miles , I heard a squeal (sounded like a bad bearing noise) I was 500 miles from home, so I took it to a local dealer. They had never heard that noise before , said they could tear into the motor. I decided to cross my fingers and head home.  Local dealer replaced lifters (they had flat spotted on the roller bearing) also replaced push rods and cams.

     I now have 22,000 miles on the bike, and it runs fine . Just wanted to contribute this info for the website.  Thanks, Chris

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Re: Replaced lifters on 09 SEUC
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2009, 10:05:09 PM »

Hi everyone. My 09 SEUC is absolutely quiet on start up. However, as soon as the oil starts to warm up I get valve train clatter, and once or twice while on vacation when the motor was not under a load one of my lifters bled down and was banging pretty good until I applied some throttle. I took it to my local dealer and of course they could not duplicate the noise and they gave me the canned answer they have told a lot of other people on this sight that it was normal and don't worry about it. I just changed to redline 20-60 and I think it may be a little quieter, but not that much. I was hoping for more of an improvement with the redline 20-60. I think eventually I will put S&S lifters and S.E. tapered push rods like one of the other guys on the site did. Also I sometimes get the clatter from the primary when it is cold like someone else on the site said they did. However, it pulls strong with the fullsac setup and sounds great. CAHDBIKER
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